Europe To Send Conspiracy Theorists To ‘Reeducation Camps’

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  1. SamSkwamch

    SamSkwamch Banned

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    Those plaques have been used as evidence in trials. Questioning the 6,000,000 number even after the 2.5 million (minimum) reduction in the mainstream world is a crime that men and women have been imprisoned for. You are making this way harder on yourself.

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    DOES 6,000,000 - 3,000,000 = 6,000,000?

    And interesting that you accuse me of dishonesty after linking to that kangaroo court crap. Go take a real look at the Zundel trials and how his public defender was actually thrown out and then she was incarcerated as well.
     
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    Ok, let's try this again. Above, I quote what you ask me to consider. Now the question remains: What's the crime? I understand that the law in this judge's country makes those things a crime. Why SHOULD those things be a crime?
     
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    Gaius_Marius Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Forgot the quote function again.

    Debunk one claim and you move on to the next... Yeah... You do cultivate dishonesty.
    Zundels book has been debunked as a dishonest work so why do you use his numbers? Oh yeah...
     
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    Gaius_Marius Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you try to publish something as historic fact or science while deliberately lying, misrepresenting quotes/data and so on you should be prosecuted in my opinion.
    Capisce?
     
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    DUDE! Wake up! I'm not using "his" numbers. I am using the mainstream numbers from Auschwitz and Israel’s Yad Vashem Holocaust Center themselves!

    And I pointed out that Israeli Holocaust historian Yehuda Bauer said that it was time to accept that the familiar four million number was a deliberate myth.

    Get over it as it is accepted fact.
     
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    Tsk tsk...
     
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    I understand that's what you think. I want to know why you think it should be a crime.
     
  8. Gaius_Marius

    Gaius_Marius Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I need to explain why I believe dishonesty in science and history should be a crime?
    Well... Because I think that dishonesty in those fields are to the detriment of humanity. To quite dramatic effect as well in some cases.
     
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    Really? So you find out after all that nonsense you posted that I was using the mainstream figures that people have been put in jail for explaining and that is all you have?
     
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    Im still waiting for you to document someone who was jailed for questioning the plaque in your picture. Since you are incapable of doing that and just want to continue in your dishonesty I see no point in arguing with you.
     
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    I posted a list from wikipedia. The plaques are simply one reference point that revisionists who are on that list use to show the 6,000,000 number is ridiculous. You just want to argue and call me dishonest.

    Be well.
     
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    The cold war period was not really known for cooperation between the West and East. The Soviets said 4 million and so it was until the end of the cold war where a correct plaque based on research could be put there.
    You are being dishonest as is evident for all. What exactly is your objective here? These matters are settled. Only people who wade in the dark corners of the web or society still beat this dead horse.
     
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    It is not "people who wade in the dark corners of the web or society."

    It are people who have been imprisoned for asking if the 6 million figure is true after the mainstream revision back around 1990.

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    And what's worse is there is a thread over 70 pages long about the holocaust and not one shred of credible proof that gas chambers were used on people was ever posted.

    I guess you would have wanted to lock up our former secretary of state too.

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    People who were dishonest and published intentional lies have been prosecuted. I have no problem with that.

    Yes... I can see how it is the same to question that in 1943 and today.
     
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    But you have it backwards. The people who were dishonest and published intentional lies have NOT been prosecuted. It are only those who question the obvious lies that are.

    Obviously! LOL

    They were there. The Red Cross was there multiple times. Major works of the time do not mention gas chambers or an extermination program. Those were lies that have been repeated ad nauseum since.

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    SIMPLE QUESTION... when was the 6,000,000 figure invented? Just say what year this incontrovertible proof was known.
     
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    I would still want to know when, as in what year this incontrovertible proof was known. It seems that 1946 is the answer, but I guess that is problematic for the true believers.

    Figures though that there is no response. It would be great if posters could just follow the conversation.
     
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    It is the speech we detest that needs to be protected the most.

    The answer to ideas we oppose is more free speech, not forced reeducation camps.

    This is why the 2nd Amendment is so important. It is the guarantor of the rest of the Bill of Rights.
     
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    It's was never invented it's a statistical analysis based on the global census data comparisons of 1938 and 1949.
     
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    Awesome! So back where this started. The figure should be reduced by 3,000,000 based on the fact that around 1990 we learned from Auschwitz and Yad Vashem themselves who reduced the Auschwitz death toll by that number.

    But moreover, YOU ARE WRONG AGAIN. The 6,000,000 number goes wayyyyyy back. Check it out all the way from 1869 lol:

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    This has already been covered the Auschwitz number posted by the Soviets was never part of the 6 million figure the 6 million figure was based on census data comparisons and no one took the Soviet numbers seriously or included them into the estimates.


    Balder.org is a neo-Nazi website, provide the primary sources from the NYT's archives. We'll wait.

    On second thought don't bother I got this starting with the very first article:


    RELIGIOUS INTELLIGENCE.
    PERMISSIONS
    [ DISPLAYING ABSTRACT ]


    The Hebrew National, a new Jewish journal published in London, gives the statistics of the Jews in the world. There are 6,000,000 Jews in the world, one-half of when live in Europe. America contains 260,000.


    http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9903E2D91F38E63BBC4950DFB6678382679FDE&legacy=true

    Woops, that article does not claim that 6 million Jews were murdered it states that there are 6 million Jews in the world, what that has to do with approximately 6 million Jews dying at the hands of the Nazi regime I have no idea.
     
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    And by nobody you mean every Auschwitz visitor until around 1990. LMAO Good try... NOT!

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    You mean what was just posted? Or like this:
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    Should we continue? We could do this all day if you like lol.


    The 6,000,000 NUMBER ITSELF along with holocaust references is what we were talking about. It has been repeated throughout history as shown above.

    Woops indeed. Read what you respond to.
     
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    No I mean everyone who made the estimates regarding the numbers killed in the holocaust, none of them used the Soviet figures as part of their estimate.


    Ah yes the number 6 million used in reference to Jews regardless of the context since recorded history means that the holocaust never happened, genius. Your logic is stunning. You've proven it, somebody give this guy a medal, because census indicated that there were 6 million Jews alive in 1869 that means that the holocaust didn't happen. Love it.
     
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    Massive reading comprehension fail. -10
     
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    No we get it, because there were 6 million Jews alive in 1869 and the NYTs reported it that means that the holocaust didn't happen. You're brilliant and your logic is astounding.
     

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