Events similar to 9/11: Pirelli Tower, Empire State Building

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  1. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    well nist publicly retracted and corrected their fraud, so they are getting a taste of the real world whether they like it or not.

    might want to check your definitions, they are off....
     
  2. Vlad Ivx

    Vlad Ivx Active Member Past Donor

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    Even if we accept your theory of long & thin beams that got softer and softer till they bent, that still does not explain why you have this tripod camera shaking without any visible deformation to the top of the North Tower, then why entire seconds pass before the tower suddenly falls. Soft beams that bend, melt away, as in your theory aren't supposed to crack so hard that they shake Manhattan, are they?

    Tell me... What inside there could have cracked in such a way that the city would shake, WITHOUT SEEING THE SLIGHTEST OUTER DEFORMATION TO THE TOWER at the same instant? You should see at least some beams or some floors or some something pushing outwards. If the structure is so soft around the area as you say, it should make more of a 'flow' downwards, like a sandcastle, not crack and shake the city. Only hard things crack. Deformation of a softened structure should have been more progressive, not so sudden...

    [video=youtube;xGAofwkAOlo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGAofwkAOlo[/video]​
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    yep and there are tonz of tripods cameras that shook and you can see the birds flying away too!
     
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    One camera jiggles (with no sound of explosives) and suddenly it's the city shaking?

    Thin. Very thin.
     
  5. Vlad Ivx

    Vlad Ivx Active Member Past Donor

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    I will post a documentary soon. You will see more cameras doing the same.

    Shock waves my friend, they are called shock waves. The huge core of the Twin Towers had steel columns going deep underground. Very deep. You know how deep? That's why the ground shakes. You don't have to have sound for it. When an object absorbs the shock wave of an explosion completely, it also acts as a silencer. And don't expect ordinary ordinary approaches in something like this.

    However there was sound in the case of the South Tower when it fell. All news reporters and witnesses said it was an explosion. You will ask me why a different one in the North Tower? My overall guess is that there had to be a variety in all this to make it more credible to the witnesses. If I'd be a bomb plotter I would not dare put the same explosive types in both buildings for every reason conceivable and unconceivable. No matter what, things will always be much smarter than boom #1 and boom#2, that's for sure, at least in a case like this.
     
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    WHAT 'news reporters and witnesses' said it was an 'explosion'?
     
  7. Vlad Ivx

    Vlad Ivx Active Member Past Donor

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    7:13
    'There has been a huge explosion' - reporter's words
    [video=youtube;Mh92V42UN2I]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Mh92V42UN2I[/video]​

    I can see that you haven't researched this 9/11 thing at all. Pity. And you're an American. I will show you a documentary soon. I just need to research some things first.
     
  8. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    theres another one where the reporter is arguing with the news anchor and the anchor simply cuts him off telling him that he could not have seen no plane...reason.....because the news anchor seen it on his monitor!

    If I run across it I will post it. Great footage how the media committed fraud.
     
  9. Vlad Ivx

    Vlad Ivx Active Member Past Donor

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    That's not the way to do journalism. You gotta stay open and listen to everyone who has something to say.

    I think I saw it. Unfortunately news agencies and governments happen to cross paths very often. But I don't think it was to any large extent in the case of 9/11.
     
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    So it was just their impression of what they were seeing,and not that they were witnessing actual 'explosions',made by detonation of explosive ordnance,right?

    Thought so.

    Continue with your <snicker> 'research'
     
  11. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    theres some more twisted logic LOL

    Yeh what people see is what they witness last time I checked.

    this is getting a bit too far out there orwellian for my taste LMAO
     
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    Nope what people are witness to is a perception which is why witnesses are always weak evidence. The human mind is not a video recorder
     
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    OBL was pursued for a laundry list of crimes and other acts of terrorism against the US and its interests. Obama didn't kill anyone, why do you think he did? Search engines are your friend.
     
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    and if they perceive that you committed murder you are going to jail!

    actually many people it is.
     
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    once upon a time........I see you are back to quoting mother goose again. Pathetic.
     
  16. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    huh?

    You mean he has no authority and did not exercise any authority to send people into war? and if you dont go toss your ass in jail again or destroy your life?
     
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    Nope the physical evidence has to prove murder.
     
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    LOL

    yeh a dead body
     
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    Thats why these claims of fraud by the government in the WTC report or the NIST report are failures they provide no evidence.
     
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    huh?

    says who?
     
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    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You dont understand how much explosives were needed to bring down the WTC therefore Im sorry since you refuse to accept reality this is no longer worth my time.
     
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    Statistically impossible for it to be carried out without a single person seeing something and questioning it. There would have been endless "garbage trolleys" as you put it, then they would have had to instal them without being seen and in such a way as no one would ever find them. Sometimes things are just what they are.
     
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    A staggering amount of exposives was needed to do what you say. Lets hear your theiry on how it was done without one person calling the fire or police department.
    Lets hear your calculations on how much explosives it took and where and how. Nothing makes you accept reality faster than doing the math yourself.
     
  24. Kokomojojo

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    sounds like a case of your failure of imagination.

    someone could sell you and change your car tires and load them up with c4 like you would know the difference.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Oh so you did all the cipherin? How about sharing it with us.
     
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    As predicted my math question caused the conspiracy theorist to stop dead in their tracks. If you are correct you should have no problem working out the math. Seems to me, you would want to do this exercise in order to prove me wrong. Unless of course you are afraid of what your own calculations show you. Like I said, me doing the math for you wont make you understand, you doing it for yourself forces your brain to accept things or not much much better.
    Its all simple, how many workers worked there, their schedules, how much explosive, where and how it is brought in, how it was installed, when was it installed how many people were in on it, how many people saw something but didnt call police, how the explosives were hidden from building maintenance workers without a single one of them noticing something strange, how they bypassed all security in multiple buildings, etc on and on....
    dude it fell because a "JET AIRLINER" crashed into it loaded with jet fuel.
     
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