Events similar to 9/11: Pirelli Tower, Empire State Building

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  1. Quantumhead

    Quantumhead New Member

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    I think the problem being pointed out by the other poster is that your bogus math calculations are not even consistent with the most basic laws of physics.

    Hang on a minute, that has nothing to do with maths. You're essentially implying something which was demonstrably done, couldn't have been done, on the basis that you do not know how it was done. Every one of your questions has a million different possible answers. It's as if you think workers at the WTC were on the lookout for terrorists planting thermite charges. Or that they even knew what thermite charges were. Or that the terrorists wouldn't have had a plan about how to get explosives inside without anybody noticing.

    OMG this is just ridiculous. You talk about maths, and then exclusively rely on fallacies of language which contradict basic physical law. Both WTC buildings were struck horizontally, way above their centre of gravity. Build a house of cards, punch five sixths of the way up, and tell me if the area where you have punched falls straight down.
     
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    Yeah, do that.

    Build a 110 story house of cards.

    You can even put more cards at the bottom of the structure than at the top to allow for greater load requirements at the bottom.

    Let me know what happens when you punch five sixths of the way up.
     
  3. AlphaOmega

    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I didnt post any math I asked for it. Now I see why conspiracy theorists are so conspiraceeee......they read into things that arent there.
    Also, which way should a building of that mass held by gravitational force fall? Up, Left, Right, front, backwards or........."Down"?
     
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    What is 'down',Alex.
     
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    The direction in which a building falls.
     
  6. Wizard From Oz

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    And you never will. It seems to be an ongoing problem - The claim the tower fell the way it did because of controlled demolition, but none of them ever show any maths as to how the buildings should have fallen if a plane hit them and a jet fuel office fire had weakened the lateral struts. Even by truther standards our resident conspiracy people are offering a very sub par performance.
     
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    Lets just say for the sake of argument that the building started falling to the left..... who here thinks the floor below where it started to teeter left could support the weight of the top of the buidling as the force was directed towards the pivot point? You should not even need a calculator to do the math. The answer is it could not support it. Therefore the only way it could have fallen is the exact way it did, straight down. Period.
     
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    LOL - I have to be honest. When the towers first fell I was puzzled why the top section didn't just snap off and fall (ala disaster movie style) A little time pondering Mr Newton's musing on the subject of gravity helped me understand what happen, but I still chuckle at my apparent ignorance at the time. But the lack of personal research in the truth movement by individuals does frustrate me. Something is not true because you can find a gif that says it is true. You have to understand the underlying concepts behind that truth to be able to debate it.
     
  9. Quantumhead

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    This tends to be the latest generic line among people with very little knowledge of what they are talking about. Gravity this and gravity that. The problem is that if you want to insert gravity as a magic word which explains everything, you have to simultaneously acknowledge that gravity is constantly acting upon all things, yet not all things fall down. In fact, the WTC towers themselves stood in precisely the same position for 40 years. Therefore, gravity must have a counter force which keeps things upright.

    Of course, those of us who studied physics at middle school know this already. Thus, we comprehend that you waffling on about gravity is a total straw man. What you need to do is explain WTF happened to that counter force.

    And again, to those of us who studied physics in middle school, what happened to that counter force is extremely obvious. Even for those who finished school before they were ten, the debris being blasted from the sides of the buildings as they collapsed was a pretty big clue.
     
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    I agree. Not everyone who misunderstands the laws of physics is Cointelpro. Some people simply don't have the background knowledge.
     
  11. Brother Jonathan

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    Did you know that Dorothy's shoes were really made of silver in Baum's novel?
     
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    Did you know the wizard didn't wear slippers,in either silver OR ruby?
     
  13. Soupnazi

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    You and your fellow twoofers are the ones lacking in comprehension of the laws of physics.

    This is why you and quantumhead and others never express which laws of physics were broken when you claim they were. You claim the government said something which violates the laws of physics yet you can show no proof or evidence. all you can do is sit and repeat your empty claims pretending that you took a physics class in grade school.

    Now where is the citation you have been asked for where someone stated a jet fuel fire melted steel and caused the collapse?
     
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    shame on you kids for being so dishonest

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    You do understand the difference between mathematics and a gif......... dont you?
     
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    do you understand that what you see in a model is the result of thousands if not millions of calculations?
     
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    You presented an animated GIF not mathematics.

    You did so because you are incapable of answering and providing mathematical proof.

    And so is everyone else on your side because you are ignorant of science including physics like all truthers and can offer no evidence or proof for your claims
     
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    I am seeing a gif of a cube changing colors. An honest person would link to a copy of the original model so the parameters plugged in can be looked at
     
  19. Brother Jonathan

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    They don't. They do not understand it at all. It goes right over their heads.
     
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    His claims are based on simple calculations which could be easily placed on one line such as this one.

    He cannot do so because he is completely ignorant of math and it does not suppot his claims.

    Just like you he runs away whenever asked for evidence or proof.

    An animated GIF is not math.

    BTW go find your citation for someone who claimed a jet fuel fire melted steel and caused the towers collapse
     
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    BJ can't, because it doesn't exist.
     
  22. Kokomojojo

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    well NIST gave you NOTHING for their model but you accept that, dont you? are you a hypocrite?

    its a mathematical model that shows stress loading of the building. dont you understand that?

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    the data is from ncstar
     
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    Wrong.

    A cartoon is not math .

    You have no comprehension of physics science or math which is why you resort to such childish nonsense and say it is math.
     
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    It is a simulation - There is a difference
     
  25. Kokomojojo

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    OSHugging troughers think the towers were weak and facade is made out of glass without a core

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    difference? now you arent even making sense.

    difference between what and what? once of fangs simple formulas versus hundreds of them?
     
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