Evidence for the Holocaust?

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  1. Wizard From Oz

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    No what I suggested was it was a good starting point
     
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    He does not want a starting point. If he started, he might get somewhere. God forbid that happens.
     
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    Would you be greatly surprised if you found that that was fiction from start to finish?

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    No of course I don't want a starting point. I want good evidence that the Holocaust happened. I am not going to make your case for you. Either you make a case, or don't.
     
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    why did you ask for evidence if you refuse to read or acknowledge any of it?

    you're just being a Holocaust-denier troll.

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    you come to a internet forum for evidence that the Holocaust happened?

    that's pretty pathetic. There are countless resources on the internet detailing evidence for the Holocaust.

    you clearly here to simply feign interest in evidence for the Holocaust so that you can then deny it outright.
     
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    Testimonies are not good evidence, since testimonies were known to be extracted under torture, and there are countless examples of obvious fiction from "Holocaust survivors". A second hand testimony from an American magazine is laughable at best.

    If there is so much good evidence, go ahead and present some.
     
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    Eichmann gave the interview before being captured by the Israelis.

    But go ahead, disregard and hand-wave away all evidence for the Holcoaust.

    we know you're not really interested in any facts or evidence.
     
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    mikemikev, then please specify what would be an example of acceptable, good evidence to you.
     
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    next he will ask for evidence that George Washington existed.

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    evidence
     
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    Bigotry is a disease that creates false notions that certain people do certain things because of their race, creed, or some status. Bigotry is the enemy of intellect and this thread shows that to be the case. A Jew hating person can posit the notion that there is no proof of the Shoah and then simply reject all the proof given him. That is a crime against intelligence.

    So here is a simple link to a German map: http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/media_da.php?ModuleId=10007271&MediaId=5617

    It shows a small percentage of the executions....but it is part of the over all plan.

    You can reject it...but then I will just assume that you don't want to learn and will file you away in my head under a particular category. (To the mods, please this is not name calling of flame baiting it is stating a fact)
    In that case I will simply have to reject any statement you make about anything since I see you do not operate with intelligence but emotion. And I will feel sorry for you.

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    sorry man I was posting the same thing.
     
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    funny how Holocaust-deniers say all testimony from Jews about the Holocaust can't be trusted.

    and they don't accept the testimony from major Nazis.

    and they don't accept the testimony from camp guards and workers.

    and they don't accept Nazi documents listing mass deportations to Poland.

    they don't accept anything.
     
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    A bigot would be somebody that believes something without evidence.

    I would certainly question that map. Can you provide more context?

    BTW: feel free to say "XYZ and is true and if you disagree I will file you away in my head". That isn't a logical argument.
     
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    what sort of evidence do you want to see?
     
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    Evidence that ~6000000 Jews were executed in gas chambers.
     
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    no honest and intelligent person argues that 6 million Jews died in gas chambers.

    wanna try again or are you just trolling?
     
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    I thought that was the definition of "the Shoah" as everyone is legally mandated to believe in Germany?

    Please do not insinuate that I am "trolling" as I would hate to have to report you.
     
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    no intelligent person argues that 6 million Jews were gassed to death.

    you are either ignorant of this subject or arguing a strawman.
     
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    So we agree that there is no evidence 6000000 Jews were gassed. What is the evidence that any Jews were gassed?
     
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    Actually it is the definition of logic.

    You see if you ask for evidence and it is provided. As I did, with context and information from a museum in part supported by the United States Government and Historians and you say it is questionable I have to assume that you can't accept anything that is not in agreement with your preconceived notion. Logic dictates that I assume everything you say is not thought through.
     
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    the people who worked there admitted gassing jews.

    millions of people were deported to auschwitz.
     
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    no one ever claimed that 6 million Jews were gassed and the fact that I have already proved that others were killed in other fashion shows that you are asking for evidence of something that isn't claimed, thus a straw man argument and by definition you are either incapable of thought or trolling. So which is it?

    When you have read this book then we can talk, until then I am not sure you know what you are talking about: https://www.google.com/shopping/pro...a=X&ei=Tv4MUv2DNIKL2AXIpIDICQ&ved=0CFYQ8wIwAA
     
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    We know what you want evidence for. We ask what kind of evidence would be satifactory to you.
    Do you not understand the question? As long as you fail to answer it, I have to assume the answer is "none".
     
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    There is an old saying, "You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make him drink."

    I believe you fall under the same category. Plenty of evidence including the German death books but no one can open a closed mind.
     
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    We seem to be reduced to lame ad hominem arguments. I do not dispute that a significant number of Jews were shot on the Eastern front. Let me clarify the point of this thread. "The Holocaust" is the claim that approximately 6000000 million Jews were executed by National Socialist Germany, and that a significant proportion of these were executed in gas chambers. This claim is not only made but legally mandated as fact by German law, and deviation from this narrative is punishable.

    Are we all agreed that this claim is false?
     
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