Facebook founder and CEO Mark Zuckerberg supports an idea called universal basic income.

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Troianii, May 26, 2017.

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Does this sound like a good idea to you?

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  1. Injeun

    Injeun Well-Known Member

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    Both my Parents worked thru the fifties, sixties, seventies, eighties and nineties. I have never envied the wealthy or the better off. They have always been the source of my income and my financial betterment. I have also never known anyone, including myself, who didn't prosper in proportion to personal output and sacrifice. Including healthy doses of prayer, faith and good fortune. The harder and smarter everyone worked, the better off they became. And the more they slouched, cut corners, and generally effed off, the worse off they became. So I cannot fathom your malice towards the wealthy as a blanket excuse for those who don't do as well.
     
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  2. Lil Mike

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    Yeah no one ever talks about how to pay for it, like somehow the robots are going to do it.
     
  3. Lil Mike

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    Well clearly Zuckerberg would prefer an Obama comparison to a Trump one, but I think Trump showed how to approach the Presidency from a business perspective. Just like any business venture, Trump saw a voting demographic that was under served by the current political system, and picked out issues that they favored and found a niche to overthrow the Republican Party establishment. Remember that 15 of the 16 other primary candidates were all basically offering the same thing; slight variations to a theme (Rand Paul was offering a product that too few were interested in), and Trump offered something different.

    Zuckerberg is fishing for his issue, and UBI could be that. Mark Cuban is currently doing the same thing.
     
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    Your scenario can work in high volume manufacturing where you literally do the exact same job several, or several hundred times a day. That scenario doesnt work for a plumber that spends half of his day in a car, or an IT repair company where a single job could take 10 minutes or 10 hours.
     
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    It would be very interesting if he tried it. I wonder if he would run as a democrat though. As we saw during this past election, the party chooses who will run, then runs a sham primary in order to give people the illusion of having a choice.
     
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    Zuckerberg isn't thinking Friedman and Murray. The thread is about Zuckerberg and his proposal. UBI supporters are not in favor of replacing the social welfare system, they want an addition to it. You're idea of replacement is just a thought piece among a handful of libertarian thinkers, not anything like an actual proposal that would happen.
     
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    Obviously he would prefer to run as a Democrat, but I'm not clear that the party would fight him in the same way they opposed Sanders. You're right that the Democratic party primaries are just window dressing for whoever the smoke filled room picks out, but the smoke filled room might be more open to a Zuckerberg.

    This is where the Trump model breaks down. Trump wanted to overthrow the establishment, but Zuckerberg and Cuban want to become part of it.
     
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    Well that's where you and Donald trump agree, time to stop footing the bill for socialist countries
     
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    And you want to pay people for bringing nothing.
     
  10. Vegas giants

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    And expand socialism
     
  11. Voltamp

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    Hey yknow what, if you want to cut the money spigot off and say screw you to Europe, and use that money for social programs here, im all for that.

    I didn't think you were man enough for something like that.
     
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    Not as man as you ranger. Remember that time on the FEX and you......oh wait ....that never happened ....to you. Lol
     
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    Nobody believes it happened to you either.

    But to the point, do you agree with trump?
     
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    Remember that time when you were at the FOB and you....oh wait...that never happened either. Got another comment about me? Lol
     
  15. Voltamp

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    Got another dodge?
     
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    Vegas giants Banned

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    I love pointing out to everyone that can read this that you were to terrified to serve your country but challenge the manhood of others. It is freaking hilarious. Done talking about me yet? Because I would love to go on. Lol
     
  17. Voltamp

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    what a ridiculous statement but yes, go on, do you agree with trump on the issue of NATO funding?
     
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    Giving them a card for food and a special fund for housing is exactly what we have.

    We need a program that teaches people skills for jobs that need to be done. We need a program that teaches people responsibility and how to make good choices.

    You are ignoring all of the reasons people are poor in the first place, in the hope that throwing money at people will solve their problems.

    It won't.
     
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    What about my manhood? Any comments? I love this
     
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    You arnt man enough to answer the question, apparently.
     
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    Great. Let's talk about manhood. Always good to remind people. So what was it that kept you from serving your country when your fellow countrymen answered the call to arms?
     
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    You drop terms from black hawk down and lie about being a ranger. Nobody buys it.

    Answer the question, do agree with trump about NATO spending?
     
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    When did I say I was a ranger? Those guys were much tougher than me. You ....on the other hand. Lol
     
  24. Spim

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    Because I don't consider it a trap.

    I'm a cold fish not some teary eyed softie.

    My fix to the "trap" would not appeal to you.
     
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    oh yeah, you just implied that you were then got called out when you made an incorrect statement about them.

    Anyway, do you support trump on denying NATO spending?
     

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