FAKE NEWS and Donald Trump

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by felonius, Mar 23, 2017.

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    The only "belief" that remains constant with him is that he is the greatest gift to the world.
    You must know he has no real opinions on many subjects - he has been on both sides of many, many issues - abortion for just one example. He does say things like "buy American" - but he hasn't - he and his daughter peddle Chinese crap.
    I do not believe he grasps the concept of integrity. He only sees profit and loss.
     
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    i for one cannot criticize anyone for reconsidering an issue and taking a different stance. Some of trumps opinions were examples of a candidate pandering to media establishments to get support and thus more votes. The reality is that most people are not complete republican or complete democrat, but the media polarizes every issue to create more discord, forming the front lines in the war between the parent corporations, who could give a ****- theyre after ratings and have to keep the elites funding them happy. You cant trust either side anymore, no matter how ardently either side claims the moral high ground.
     
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    you sound like kellyanne...a lie is a lie plain and simple.
     
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    if you refuse to admit the existence of medib bias, how can you be impartial and honest yourself?
     
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    I never said that I never implied that you just pull that out of the proverbial
     
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    And those are the kind of people who when they post is just impossible to give any credibility to. For they are either dumber than a bag of hammers, OR, they are intentionally deceiving forum members. Yet these are also the kind of people who are so upset with trump lying. LOL So, add hypocrisy to the bag of hammers, or the intentional dishonesty. Which of course seems rampant with democratic posters. They do not care of course or they would with honesty and integrity discuss politics, gov't and politicians. So what then is their purpose? What is their motive? Regardless of what it is, they are not gonna discuss anything rationally, with honesty and integrity. This just reflects that they are devoid of any sense of right and wrong, lacking a basic moral compass.

    That it hurts their party, as it did with the wilkileak revelations, means nothing to them. So the self destructive behavior must elicit tremendous self gratification, which is rather perverse when you think about it. I can remember long ago when democrats were much better people and would argue with the other side, rationally, honestly, with integrity, but that has gone the way of the DoDo bird, sadly. I think this comes from the impossibility of arguing for the faux liberal ideology, which is irrational and incoherent, and so this is all they can do, to use these nefarious and destructive tactics. For a critical and honest discussion is impossible with most of them, and they really do not seek it. They only seek to demonize, turn into demagogues, and show how ugly they can be, much like very young children who think the world revolves around themselves and have no respect for others, nor any feelings of responsible behavior.

    MSM bias, their use of yellow journalism, using propaganda, is evident, it is the fact. Yet some people know only this as the method to convey information, and never knew anything else. They think it is fact, principled journalism. But many of them know damn well what MSM is, but since it is done on behalf of their tribe, that is all that matters. Comes back to the loss of a moral center and the basic sense of right and wrong.

    If you removed every democrat from this forum for their dishonesty, you might not have a single one left. That is just how bad the left side has become. Yet I remember different times, but it has been a long time since that existed. I guess they must be dishonest or they could not hold the positions that they hold? Yet they are emulating the democratic party, the DNC and Hillary, for that is what their tribe has turned into. Which is one reason among several that I left the democratic party under bill Clinton.
     
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    Well said, but I would argue that the problem exists on the right as well. Many people are unwilling to admit faults in Trump. Admittinghes imperfect does not prohibit you from supporting him.
     
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    Excellent post. This is exactly the battle being waged...

    Agreed. For those who insist that fascism refers to thought control of the right, I would ask what term we should use to refer to thought control of the left?

    The press spins things to further the narrative they're pushing. I've given lots of examples, but people like you refuse to recognize it for what it is. It's ok, though; enough people now know what's going on...
     
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