False Flag operations

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  1. ararmer1919

    ararmer1919 Banned

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    That's as obvious as it is (*)(*)(*)(*)ed up. Cause he was black. Plain and simply. If Obama had been white but everything else about him was the exact same, he would not have been ejected. No conspiracy there.

    And yes, I believe that many Americans are that retarded.
     
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    If Obama were white, the DNC would have never ran him for President.

    If the voters were have been stupid enough to put a white man in the White House who went by the name of Barack Obama who had a hidden past, Nancy Pelosi would have drawn up articles of impeachment by the end of 2009.


    Barrack Obama's Cheapest Shot of All:

    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2248793

    The replies to the David Zephyr post are better.
     
  3. Dayton3

    Dayton3 Well-Known Member

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    No.

    False flag operations work well in geo political thrillers.

    Not so in real life.
     
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    Can you explain why the previous occupant was a drunkem frat boy?

    Wait, what about his past is hidden? What don't we know about him that we knew about the last 40+ presidents?
     
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    How many times do you need this lie pointed out? That EO LOOSENED restrictions on presidential records. It had nothing at all to,do,with personal records. His personal records are protected by the exact same privacy laws that protect yours.

    Please stop posting this proven lie. It's tiring having to point it out every time you make it.
     
  7. contrails

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    Are you saying that someone who graduated from an ivy league law school and served 12 years in state and federal government cannot be elected president? How is that worse than an Ivy League business graduate with only five years in state government?
     
  8. Moriah

    Moriah Well-Known Member

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    On this graph I notice the public trust dropped horribly after LBJ became President (maybe because people didn't believe the Warren Commission). It remained low, hitting the absolute bottom during the time Carter was President (guess folks didn't trust his judgement).
    I am going to maintain a healthy distrust of the govt. I don't care whether a Democrat or Republican is President.
     
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    No one believed that one at the time and it did not start WW2.
     
  10. Moriah

    Moriah Well-Known Member

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    Do you think this applies to ALL the Presidents, Pred?
     
  11. Moriah

    Moriah Well-Known Member

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    smb, I did hear that FDR instigated the Japanese and knew before hand that they were going to attack Pearl Harbor. They say he did this because he wanted the USA to get into WW2.
     
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    People will believe anything if allows them to hold onto irrational beliefs in the face evidence. Irrational beliefs breed irrational conspiracies to substantiate the original irrational belief. If you irrationally believe the U.S. Government want to institute martial law and take away all your rights then you are likely to believe 9/11 was a secret op by the Government to perpetuate that end.

    Irrationality breeds irrationality to the point of the ridiculous.
     
  13. Moriah

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    So the POTUS had no experience under his belt other than the work he did in the 1980's? Is that what you are sticking with?

    And btw...Community Organizer is not a dirty word nor is it a criminal endeavor, so what is up with all the disdain? That always puzzles me.
     
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    Again irrational crapola. Did the U.S. know the Japanese were going to attack...yes. Did they know where...no. Did they even consider the audacity of them attacking Pearl Harbor...no. Not to mention that it was almost dumb luck that they launched the attack on the one day and time it would be most successful...Sunday morning.

    The idea that Japanese could move a whole task force within striking distance of Pearl Harbor was not conceivable to American Military at the time. That was the ultimate failure. The failure of imagination on the American perspective and the audacity of imagination of the Japanese military.
     
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    Thank you, smb.
     
  17. Moriah

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    Winston Churchill had been wanting the USA to get into the war to help Great Britian for a long time. FDR had promised the people of America that he wouldn't drag them into war; it was one of his campaign promises. So, he needed something BIG to win the minds and hearts of the American citizens and convince them to go to war. Pearl Harbor was it.
     
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    That proves nothing. Besides it wouldn't have taken anything big to get us into the war. Any attack against U.S. forces would have shifted American public opinion which was already shifting on the war over the edge. Again the evidence is clear...we know the Japanese were going to attack. When and where was a complete mystery. No one believed at the time the attack would come at Pearl Harbor. Most expected Philippines some expected Dutch Harbor and the Elutions.
     
  19. Moriah

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    Nothing that I've read about in history books or seen on videos supports your version of the story. But, you are entitled to your opinion.:worship:
     
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    The Spanish-American war was started by a false-flag operation. I'm not saying the US government was involved in the explosion, but they most certainly distorted and exaggerated the explosion in order to justify a war against Spain.

    And, of course, the US government's own documents prove that the intelligence community plans out false flag terrorist acts against Americans and westerners in general: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods

    And then there was Operation Gladio in Europe, falling under the aegis of NATO. They were also implicated in false-flag operations that were designed to justify NATO military interventions in any number of countries.

    [video=youtube;GGHXjO8wHsA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGHXjO8wHsA[/video]

    Of course, the idea that rich, powerful people in government and in corporations would commit deceitful, evil acts in order to expand their own wealth and power is seen as "crazy" by most people. As far as I can tell, the only reason they think it is "crazy" is because the exact seem people implicated in these kind of acts (the rich and powerful) tell them it is so, and people are only too happy to listen.
     
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    Serving one year on active duty in the military is equal to serving 20 years in either the state or federal legislature.

    As for Obama, all evidence shows he gained admittance to Occidental and Columbia because of affirmative action policies at the time.

    Obama in the private sector what did he teach at the Chicago University of Law ? Race.

    With a law firm what did he litigate ? Race.

    As POTUS what has he done for race relations in America ? Agitate.
     
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    Yes, the Warren Commission and Vietnam, the lies LBJ told about Vietnam were also exposed. LBJ was seen by a lot of people as always seemingly to hide things. One of the conspiracy theories back then dealing with JFK and the Warren Commission that is not heard much if at all today. The conspiracy theory never questioned that Oswald was the shooter, the lone gunman. But who put him up to it. There was a lot of eyes on Cuba then and Oswald "Free Play for Cuba Committee." That Cuba might have been behind Oswald and the killing of JFK. That LBJ did not want this out out of fear the American People would then want us to attack Cuba. Remember we had just went through the 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis and we promised the USSR we would not attack Cuba. I am sure if true, LBJ had thoughts of WWIII. The American people would stand for having Fidel or Cuba behind the killing of JFK and LBJ knew he would have to attack if that became known. If he attacked Cuba, then the USSR would immediately come to their aid and viola, WWIII and nuclear exchanges.

    I am surprised that all the conspiracy theories have gone off in other directions. But I am like you, I do not trust any president or either party for that matter. The American people have been lied to too many time, lied too so much the American people have come to accept it. Not that they like it, they just accept it. The media too, they just shrug. Another lie, so what else is new. It is a wonder trust in our government is as high as it is between 20-25%. Although those numbers remain fairly constant, whether Republicans or Democrats trust their government more than the other all depends on which party the president is from. Click the third box down, trust by party.

    http://www.people-press.org/2014/11/13/public-trust-in-government/
     
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    It didn't start WW2? It was the invasion of Poland.
     
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    Military experience is no better or worse than any other experience. Some of our best presidents have had no military experience. There are many former military people who shouldn't be county dog catcher, much less serving in the state and federal legislature.

    Even if he did, he still graduated with good enough grades to get into Harvard, and went on to earn a law degree magna cum laude.

    And that had nothing to do with all of the right-wing extremists who constantly questioned not only Obama's policies, but his legitimacy as president? Despite what some would have you believe, race relations have actually improved under Obama. Back in 2008, 70% of whites and 61% of blacks had a positive view on race relations. In March of 2015, that had increased to 72% and 66%. What has decreased is our tolerance for racism, which in my opinion is a good thing.
     

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