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  1. APACHERAT

    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Obama is still a community organizer, he's still agitating and dividing the people isn't he ? That's what community organizers do, they agitate and cause trouble.

    You got it wrong, Ronald Reagan wasn't a cowboy but the last President to serve in the U.S. Cavalry. If you weren't indoctrinated in cultural-Marxism revisionist history you would have known that.

     
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    Reagan was in the cavalry for less than a year before arranging to have himself transferred to the press corps/Hollywood contingent of the US military. He deliberately avoided combat and never saw a day of it.

    If you are going to call Obama just a community organizer then Reagan is just a cowboy actor and Bush is just a cheerleader.
     
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    The end of WWI was the beginning of WWII. The end of WWI also brought on the Holocaust.
     
  4. APACHERAT

    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You have been well indoctrinated by the radical left. It's called liberal revisionism aka cultural-Marxism.

    MILITARY SERVICE OF RONALD REAGAN


    Ronald Wilson Reagan enrolled in a series of home-study Army Extension Courses on 18 March 1935. After completing 14 of the courses, he enlisted in the Army Enlisted Reserve on 29 April 1937, as a Private assigned to Troop B, 322nd Cavalry at Des Moines, Iowa. He was appointed Second Lieutenant in the Officers Reserve Corps of the Cavalry on 25 May 1937. On June 18 of that year Reagan, who had just moved to Los Angeles to begin his film career, accepted his Officer’s Commission and was assigned to the 323rd Cavalry.

    Lieutenant Reagan was ordered to active duty on 19 April 1942. Due to eyesight difficulties, he was classified for limited service only, which excluded him from serving overseas. His first assignment was at the San Francisco Port of Embarkation at Fort Mason, California, as liaison officer of the Port and Transportation Office. Upon the request of the Army Air Forces (AAF), he applied for a transfer from the Cavalry to the AAF on 15 May 1942; the transfer was approved on 9 June 1942. He was assigned to AAF Public Relations and subsequently to the 1st Motion Picture Unit in Culver City, California. Reagan was promoted to First Lieutenant on 14 January 1943 and was sent to the Provisional Task Force Show Unit of This Is The Army at Burbank, California. Following this duty, he returned to the 1st Motion Picture Unit, and on 22 July 1943 was promoted to Captain.

    In January 1944, Captain Reagan was ordered to temporary duty in New York City to participate in the opening of the sixth War Loan Drive. He was assigned to the 18th AAF Base Unit, Culver City, California on 14 November 1944, where he remained until the end of the war. He was recommended for promotion to Major on 2 February 1945, but this recommendation was disapproved on July 17 of that year. On 8 September 1945, he was ordered to report to Fort MacArthur, California, where he was separated from active duty on 9 December 1945.

    While on active duty with the 1st Motion Picture Unit and the 18th Army Air Forces Base Unit, Captain Reagan served as Personnel Officer, Post Adjutant, and Executive Officer. By the end of the war, his units had produced some 400 training films for the Army Air Forces.

    Reagan’s Reserve Commission automatically terminated on 1 April 1953. However, he became Commander-in-Chief of all U.S. Armed Forces when he became President on 20 January 1981.

    http://www.reagan.utexas.edu/archives/reference/military.html
     
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    Bull(*)(*)(*)(*) his eyesight was that bad. There were infantry who wore glasses. Reagan didn't even wear them most of time.

    He deliberately avoided combat. He was not hero and nothing more than a cowboy actor.
     
  6. Dayton3

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    Facts are not on your side. It has been well established for years that Reagan's poor eyesight (combined with his age at that time) kept him out of actual combat.

    Still he did what he was told.
     
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    The bombing of the U.S.S. Liberty was a typical fog of war mistake. Very common in warfare.

    You know the U.S. deliberately bombed a British mechanized infantry vehicle in the 1991 Gulf War with not one but two A-10s making the mistake and killed IIRC 11 British soldiers.

    No stories of conspiracies. No people trying to damage our alliance with the British.

    So why do people obsess over the Liberty?

    The U.S. paid compensation and it was basically forgotten.
     
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    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Did you know that flat fleet would keep you out of the military during WW ll ?

    Questerr, what's your military experience ? Before the "All Volunteer Military" of 1973 you couldn't even pick what your MOS or rating would be. You were told what your job would be, what unit you would be assigned to and where you would be sent, you had no freaking say so at all.

    I served along side with PFC's who had a BS degree and had 1400 SAT scores but they were grunts, riflemen. The day they showed up for basic and stood on those yellow footprints it just happened they needed riflemen that day not some jet mechanics or radar technicians. Maybe if they showed up a week later they would have found themselves serving in the rear with the gear typing on one of those things that were called a type writer. You have no say so what your job was to be back then or where you would serve.
     
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    There was NO fog of war.. It was a clear day and the Israelis made several passes low and slow before they began their 3 hour attack on the USS Liberty.....

    Do NOT dismiss or insult the survivors.
     
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    Israeli planes made several low passes yes.

    But

    1) Do you have any idea how difficult it is to identify surface targets from an airplane traveling 300 knots or more?

    2) IIRC, the Israeli planes that made the passes over the Liberty were NOT the ones that bombed and strafed the ship.

    3) Calling it a "3 hour attack" is being a bit dishonest. The Liberty was bombed with napalm then strafed. Finally nearly 3 hours later torpedo boats showed up, fired a spread of torpedos, one hit, they then closed and fired machine guns. The gunboats instantly broke off the attack when they clearly identified the Liberty.
     
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    So now Israeli pilots are incompetent and can't tell the Liberty from an Egyptian horse freighter? I suppose that the large US flag counted for nothing.
     
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    Moriah Well-Known Member

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    Sorry, his name was James Tague. Go google his name. The whole story will come up. The bullet that nicked him proves Oswald couldn't have been the only shooter in Dealy Plaza that day.
     
  13. Dayton3

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    You know how difficult it is to see a flag from an aircraft going back at 300 knots? and remember, flags don't stick out most times like a drawing in a book.

    Were American A-10 pilots incompetent when they blasted a British mechanized infantry vehicle away of the type they had operated with for years?
     
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    He was hit by concrete shrapnel from one of the fired bullets hitting the curb. The Warren Commission included him in its investigation. Nothing regarding what happened to him contradicts the official report.
     
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    If your college records were public, why did the companies hiring you make you provide them instead of getting it themselves? Even public universities like UCLB have never provided transcripts to anyone but the student without their permission.
     
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    Panzerkampfwagen New Member

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    That's not actually factual, but thanks for playing.
     
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    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Beats the hell out of me, I grew up when there was no such thing as a hyphenated-American and you called a spade a spade.

    When did college transcripts become private ? It seems in the mid or late 1970's



    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news...ls-to-release-his-collegiate-transc/?page=all

    http://www.studentclearinghouse.org/
     
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    Reagan was an officer. Your argument has no merit. Officers have always had more control over their career path.
     
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    Several of them may be confirmed using declassified government documents. Conduct further research to gather more details.
     
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    Of course it's factual. Anyone who thinks the Versailles Treaty didn't CAUSE WWII is, well, flat wrong.
     
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    Not what was said, but thanks for playing.
     
  22. Moriah

    Moriah Well-Known Member

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    Please explain the "magic" bullet to me. Tell me how ONE bullet made all those wounds in two men? Go ahead. I'll wait.:hmm:
     
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    I remember the media reported we had American sailors dead floating in that gulf. I enlisted after that. You mean the media lied to us? And were told that lie by the Johnson Admin? Looks like a false flag to me.

    Of course I could have been having auditory hallucinations, although I had never seen a drug in my life at that point in time. But what about all of my friends who also enlisted because we were told dead americans were floating in the ocean? Did we all hallucinate?
     
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    With the correct angles of the persons sitting there it is quite doable.
     

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