FBI fatally shoots man in Utah who allegedly threatened Biden, Alvin Bragg and others

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  1. Pro_Line_FL

    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Actually muslims apply apostacy and blasphemy laws almost exclusively against other muslims, not that is has anything to do with the topic.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Who did he threaten?

    I mean who did he address the threat to? Was the threat sent to anyone specifically? or just posted in public view of some random group of people, not so much designed to be seen or sent to the specific persons he wrote he was going to kill.

    We can play semantics with the meaning of the word, but I'd argue if the threat did not go to any specific target, he did not actually truly "threaten" anyone.
     
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    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is the 2 TIER system at its FINEST!

    The black woman who texted her BF asking him to KILL her sister's white booty call only got fired and this guy got FIRED ON . You see, having a violent opinion while being white and republican is fair game for MURDER.
    Huge difference!
     
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    I don't think you have a clue what you are talking about and you certainly don't have any form of evidence
     
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    CKW Well-Known Member

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    Is there a description of events leading up to this man being shot? Did he pull a gun, did he have a gun in hand? Or did they just use a sniper looking through a window?
     
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    I read or heard that this guy had either shot at the FBI or pointed a weapon on them. We need to see the details of the incident. I do not in any way believe that the FBI shot him just for threatening The President. The Secret Service and the FBI are required to investigate every credible threat to a President .
     
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    I want to see that also. I heard somewhere that the guy either shot at the FBI or was shot by the FBI. Hey there are people killed by police during traffic stops because it appeared that had a weapon and threatened the police.
     
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    Hmmm.. So holes in the story here. First, from these accounts, it suggests that the man was summarily executed by the FBI. I suppose the distraction is that he had made threats against Biden. It seems that suddenly, the FBI are taking threats like this so seriously that they are just breaking down the door and executing folks....? I recall LOTS of democrats and celebrities calling for the death of Trump. Somehow folks like Madonna, Kathy Griffin, the cast of the View, etc, never got calls at their homes for their threats...

    I feel ashamed of the FBI. They seem to now be what folks in the Old Soviet had to fear. Death by the state absent any due process.

    Lastly, it looks like liberals are all taking a victory lap here. Because killing an old white guy using their jack booted thugs satisfies them somehow....
     
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    With a ratio that ridiculously out of reasonable balance do you really expect honest documentation?
     
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    PARTIZAN1 Well-Known Member

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    Why doesn’t a news agency use FOB to get the FBI report?
     
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    When a cop shoots someone...the details are laid out leading up to the incident. This should be no different.
     
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    Grau Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    First of all, any rational person can see that I was not serious; please lighten up...

    Secondly, why get snarky?

    Writing here is supposed to be an enjoyable pastime and I actually enjoy reading & considering different opinions from people around the planet.

    Enjoy,
     
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    Just wondering when they will be disclosed.
     
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    Maybe the FBI is "above" all that transparency. I hope we get details soon.
     
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    I too want more details. But, the details I have paint a pretty bad picture for the FBI.

    First, why the FBI? I would think this would fall under the Secret Service. This is strange to me.

    This guy communicated threats against the president and others while pretending to be Billy Badass over the internet. That's NOT OK. That's indefensible, and stupid. But, this guy was in no physical condition to actually carry out any of those threats. He was a keyboard warrior. He was a 5'4" 300lb geriatric who could barely walk unassisted. He, and his physical condition, was well known to the FBI and the Secret Service long before this incident.

    The president was scheduled to make an appearance in this guy's town. The SS have an absolute duty to contact him and assess the threats this guy was making. Normally, I'd expect they would pick him up at the grocery store, or the bank, or pumping gas, or somewhere like that. They absolutely should not have confronted him in his home, where his firearms presumably were. This seems elementary to me.

    I think that SWATting him in an early morning raid, and driving an armored vehicle through the front of his house was excessive and unnecessary. Dragging his dead body out onto the sidewalk and leaving him there for hours in the sun was also unnecessary and compromised the scene.

    It seems almost like they are sending a loud message to any other internet keyboard warriors.
     
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    The FBI sent a very powerful message that if you threaten a Democrat, they'll kill your ass.
     
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    He threatened a Democrat, is what he did to deserve to die. Threaten a Republican? Get a stern talkin to. Threaten a Democrat? They're going to kill ya.
     
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    Eric Swalwell said he would nuke United States citizens.
     
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    They knew he was armed but decided to conduct a dynamic entry raid vs a soft entry. Another term for a dynamic entry raid is "a no-knock warrant". Those agents knew how this would turn out and that's why they conducted themselves the way they did.
     
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    The apparent blackout on details bother me. I do hope there was a valid reason such as he shot at the FBI or immolate threat. Sort of the opposite of castle
     
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    But that's so easy even Hunter can do it, we don't talk about it at the White House though.
     
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    You want the details? You are gonna have to check whatever dark hole they buried the trans shooter manifesto in. I bet it is right next to it!
     
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    More like TRUE STORY BRO
     
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    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Is it now? Death threats against Obama increased by 400% compared to the "shrub". How many of them did the FBI kill?
     

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