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FBI fatally shoots man in Utah who allegedly threatened Biden, Alvin Bragg and others

Discussion in 'Latest US & World News' started by Pro_Line_FL, Aug 9, 2023.

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  1. Darthcervantes

    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There wasn't a 2-tier justice system under Obama.
     
    Darthcervantes, Aug 10, 2023
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  2. Pro_Line_FL

    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Awww... Now everything can be a conspiracy theory, but to people like you EVERYTHING is a conspiracy, where you and people like you are always the victim.
     
    Pro_Line_FL, Aug 10, 2023
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  3. PARTIZAN1

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    Until we get details you are dabbling in an unknown. Every bad incident is not partizan politics just as every time an Afro-American gets shot it’s not about their race. This could go either way. The could have posed an imminent threat and moved or point his gun in a manner of shooting. It could be that an FBI agent lost his composure and fired. Every time a White Cop shoots a Black man the chorus sings “he must have did ——————- fill in the blank. The city’s adds let’s wait for the body cam. So let’s wait.
     
    PARTIZAN1, Aug 10, 2023
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  4. Darthcervantes

    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Facts are not conspiracy.
    For you to call it conspiracy IS a conspiracy in itself
     
    Darthcervantes, Aug 10, 2023
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  5. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    No, we know that...

    1. Robertson wasn't a direct threat to anyone.

    2. We also know that the FBI's full tactical SWAT team showed up to launch a pre-dawn tactical raid.
     
    Wild Bill Kelsoe, Aug 10, 2023
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  6. Monash

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    And you know this because you were there at the planning meeting or because your spirit guide and Ouija board told you that's what happened?

    I only ask because news services are reporting the person concerned pointed a firearm at the FBI officers before they shot him. And since I wasn't there either I'd like to wait for more information on what went down before passing judgement. I would note however that knocking on the door and politely saying 'Police we have a warrant' (vs going in unannounced, wearing tactical gear and shouting Police at the top of your lungs) is no guarantee that the occupants will not reach for a firearm or obey orders to drop it if they do.
     
    Monash, Aug 10, 2023
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    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    And the media is reporting that because the FBI said that's what happened. If the government said it, it must be true.
     
    Wild Bill Kelsoe, Aug 10, 2023
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  8. Monash

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    And yet one more time. You know this how exactly? Because every time the FBI executes a warrant someone gets shot? Any facts to back up your (oh so obvious) anti-government biases? To be clear 'If the government said it, it must be true' is a platitude not a statement of truth. Same goes for 'If the government said it, it must be false.' Neither statement has any real meaning.
     
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  9. Bill Carson

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    They murdered his ass...just like Ruby Ridge....just like Koresh/Waco. They always elevate a non-existent threat...spread the propaganda to the plebs....and then later the truth comes out. Rinse and repeat.
     
    Bill Carson, Aug 10, 2023
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    What is important is to find out how he acted when the FBI showed up. Did he threaten any agents during their visit prior to this.
     
    PARTIZAN1, Aug 10, 2023
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    This guy was making very specific threats and had the guns to carry them out, the medium is irrelevant. Play stupid games...
     
    Reasonablerob, Aug 11, 2023
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  12. Pro_Line_FL

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    He was armed and pointed a gun at them when then confronted him. In that situation lethal force is pretty much standard practice.

    Utah man killed by FBI pointed a gun at agents before fatal shooting
    Craig Deleeuw Robertson was fatally shot when agents were trying to serve a search warrant at his Provo home.
    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/utah-man-killed-fbi-pointed-gun-agents-fatal-shooting-rcna99326
    A Utah man fatally shot by the FBI on Wednesday was armed when FBI agents confronted him at his home, a senior law enforcement official told NBC News. Authorities said he pointed his weapon at agents and did not respond to their commands.

    Officials said the FBI fatally shot the man, who was identified in charging documents as Craig Deleeuw Robertson, as they were serving a warrant at his home in Provo on Wednesday.
     
    Pro_Line_FL, Aug 11, 2023
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  13. Turin

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    And concervatives country wide mourn as his agenda was stopped short.

    Lets face it. Many conservatrives, and pretty much ALL MAGA folk would shout joy to the heavens if this man had been alowed to carry out his attacks.
     
    Turin, Aug 11, 2023
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  14. Monash

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    Oh? So you were there at the scene and know this is what actually happened ? Do tell us all about it. Yet another example of something who thinks that if they repeat something often it 'must be true', no objectivity or facts required. SO who are you trying to convince, yourself or others?

    How about you take your little fact free rant to the conspiracy forum where it belongs.
     
    Monash, Aug 12, 2023
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    No they didn't, he made his choice.
     
    Reasonablerob, Aug 12, 2023
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