FBI found Hillary Clinton's emails in Obama White House, former top official says

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  1. grapeape

    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh FFS........really.......

    This has got to be the "Irony Post of the year"
     
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    Enough that he wanted to indict him.
     
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    And I want to come home to wife telling me we won the lottery and she wants me to plow her out over the balcony of some 5 star hotel all weekend while we wait for the state lottery office to process our money. Doesn't mean it would've happened.

    He had suspicion but he did not think he had BARD evidence. DOJ guidelines are if you don't think you have BARD evidence and therefore don't think you can net a conviction with some surety, you shouldn't be jamming anyone up.
    Why is that? Because the entire point of criminal prosecution is that I the prosecutor think I've got BARD evidence and can therefore obtain a conviction.
     
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    So, you admit that you can't pay a foreign agent for information to help with a U.S. election?

    Good to know.
     
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    It's part of it. If not where did her eMails come from?
     
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    To you maybe.
     
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    I have no idea wth you’re talking about. Her server has nothing to do with the russia probe. You’re mixing up your conspiracy theories. Pretty soon it’ll be Seth rich who was behind Benghazi lol
     
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    To Trump, he’s the Roy Cohn type AG he’s been seeking...
     
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    Once they get Lisa Page on the stand, under oath, big and bold for all the world to see -- where not even the hyperliberal "news" media can hide it or ignore it, you'll finally be forced to 'GET IT'.

    After that first domino tumbles, the rest will go in order
    , all the way up to the top of that conniving Libocrat pile of sh!t. I can't wait, and using best estimates, I'd say the complete truth about what the Obama regime's stooges allowed to happen will finally come boiling up just in time to make a complete chaotic fiasco of the next Democrat National Convention.... :twisted:
     
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    Sure does, the left claimed Trump asked the Russians to hack it. Try to keep up with the meme's.
     
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    I’m not sure if you’ve fully gone off the deep end or if this was supposed to be funny.
     
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    It ain't rocket science, Mello.

    The Mission:

    1. Shield and protect Hillary by negating the investigation of her crimes against national security and classified information.
    2. Sabotage Trump using "Steele Dossier", get FISA court to start a 'witch-hunt' investigation, and smear sh!t as far as possible.

    All the strands of this spider's web weave neatly together -- with the big, black spider crouched right in the middle of it....
     
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    You might even go to jail on this one.
     
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    3. Hide Obama’s Kenya birth by launching a coup against trump

    You’re off the deep end if you think there’s any connection lol
    The IG already found no improper considerations in the Hillary email investigation. That isn’t going to change.
     
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    No, sorry man but your just wrong

    Mueller specifically said .....


    Pretty black and white
     
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    [/QUOTE]

    O my God. You can't read, can you?
    The applicable rule:
    "(a) A Special Counsel shall comply with the rules, regulations, procedures, practices and policies of the Department of Justice. He or she shall consult with appropriate offices within the Department for guidance with respect to established practices, policies and procedures of the Department, including ethics and security regulations and procedures. Should the Special Counsel conclude that the extraordinary circumstances of any particular decision would render compliance with required review and approval procedures by the designated Departmental component inappropriate, he or she may consult directly with the Attorney General."

    ^ That is referencing that he can't indict someone if he doesn't 1) think he has BARD evidence that 2) is likely to be sufficient to obtain a conviction. This is part of the DOJ handbook for prosecutors. Its a bright line rule all DOJ prosecutors, which includes a special counsel, MUST follow.
    You see how there are TWO sentences there? The first talks about prosecutorial discretion IE a prosecutor declining to bring charges because the EVIDENCE IS INSUFFICIENT. Which Mueller claims he thought it was.
    Then he says in addition to that (AND) he mentions that even if he HAD BARD evidence he wouldn't indict because of the Constitutional concerns IE you can't indict a sitting president.
     
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    No it doesn't. All communications to the within the office of the POTUS must take place on the servers that get retained. It says right in the act that those communications take place n Whitehouse.gov systems ?

    We've all been thru this when the Bush admin used GOP servers for this very purpose.
     
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    O my God. You can't read, can you?
    The applicable rule:
    "(a) A Special Counsel shall comply with the rules, regulations, procedures, practices and policies of the Department of Justice. He or she shall consult with appropriate offices within the Department for guidance with respect to established practices, policies and procedures of the Department, including ethics and security regulations and procedures. Should the Special Counsel conclude that the extraordinary circumstances of any particular decision would render compliance with required review and approval procedures by the designated Departmental component inappropriate, he or she may consult directly with the Attorney General."

    ^ That is referencing that he can't indict someone if he doesn't 1) think he has BARD evidence that 2) is likely to be sufficient to obtain a conviction. This is part of the DOJ handbook for prosecutors. Its a bright line rule all DOJ prosecutors, which includes a special counsel, MUST follow.
    You see how there are TWO sentences there? The first talks about prosecutorial discretion IE a prosecutor declining to bring charges because the EVIDENCE IS INSUFFICIENT. Which Mueller claims he thought it was.
    Then he says in addition to that (AND) he mentions that even if he HAD BARD evidence he wouldn't indict because of the Constitutional concerns IE you can't indict a sitting president.[/QUOTE]

    do you read what you post ?

    And your referencing BARD rules which I am not. Im pointing out that the Office Of Legal Counsel told him that he could not indict a sitting president. Your posting rules for ANYONE in the investigation, and i'm showing you in black and white that their were special rules applied to him as the POTUS

    He details out 10 instances of obstruction, THEN qualifies why he didn't indict him because he couldn't !
     
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    do you read what you post ?



    He details out 10 instances of obstruction, THEN qualifies why he didn't indict him because he couldn't ![/QUOTE]

    Bolding mine and I'm not sure what you keep doing to the quote feature


    Yes he couldn't because the laws authorizing his position of special counsel bind him to the rules of the DOJ which prohibit indictments without bard evidence which he admits he does not have.
    He also mentions that even if he had that (and he admits he does not) he couldn't indict because you can't indict a sitting president.

    If he was just saying "I cant indict a sitting president" he would've limited his comment to the constitutional concern only.
     
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    Bolding mine and I'm not sure what you keep doing to the quote feature


    Yes he couldn't because the laws authorizing his position of special counsel bind him to the rules of the DOJ which prohibit indictments without bard evidence which he admits he does not have.
    He also mentions that even if he had that (and he admits he does not) he couldn't indict because you can't indict a sitting president.

    If he was just saying "I cant indict a sitting president" he would've limited his comment to the constitutional concern only.[/QUOTE]

    FFS, i pointed out where he SPECIFICALLY posted that he couldn't indict him because of his position. They CANNOT indict a sitting president, therefore no matter what, he was powerless to indict him.

    He specifically put that in there for a reason. Then he goes on to say that the POTUS "does not immunity once he leaves office". Add in the letter he wrote that strongly disagreed with Barrs "characterization" of the report, and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure it out.
     
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    FFS, i pointed out where he SPECIFICALLY posted that he couldn't indict him because of his position. They CANNOT indict a sitting president, therefore no matter what, he was powerless to indict him.

    He specifically put that in there for a reason. Then he goes on to say that the POTUS "does not immunity once he leaves office". Add in the letter he wrote that strongly disagreed with Barrs "characterization" of the report, and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure it out.[/QUOTE]

    No you pointed out where he said he couldnt because of DOJ regulations. And additionally because you cant indict a sitting president.

    In other sections of the report he admits he has no BARD evidence for any crimes. That includes obstruction. Put 2 and 2 together and make 4 for goodness sake
     
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    You've really got them this time! They're going to be locked up and day now, right?

    :roflol::roflol::roflol:
     
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    Trump family used personal email, sad... lock em up
     

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