FEA data regarding WTC1

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  1. genericBob

    genericBob New Member

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    where is it documented that any tests for explosives had ever been done on anything at ground zero?
     
  2. Hannibal

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    The FBI reports, specifically PENTTBOM.
     
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    PENTTBOM doesn't contain any documentation of explosives testing and also we have covered this before and you urged me to file a freedom of information act request, however, if it takes filing a freedom of information act request for this, how is it that you allegedly know that explosives were tested for and came up negative?
     
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    Because I read the reports. You should really do likewise, there's lots of information.
     
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    exactly what report documents the tests for explosives?
     
  6. Hannibal

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    You could start with the FBI page on their efforts:
    http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/ten-years-after-the-fbi-since-9-11/by-the-numbers

    then move on to the burn videos (via FOIA) on this page:
    http://conspiraciesrnotus.blogspot.com/2010/12/nist-tested-bomb-demolition-hypotheses.html

    Then get serious as a researcher: contact them directly with what you want and ask for it. You have the freedom to do so.

    Happy viewing!
     
  7. genericBob

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    I submit to you, that the data doesn't exist
    if the people peddling the suicidal Arab hijackers story
    were so interested in getting the TRUTH out, they would
    be willing to provide very specific links to data and even
    page numbers within specific documents, however, the
    fact is, the "data" doesn't exist.

    If you personally have seen the INFORMATION
    you could provide a document ID and link and page number
    where the INFORMATION is to be found, but you don't,
    because you are not really interested in the TRUTH, you
    are playing a game here.

    The whole argument
    boils down to

    > is so
    >> is NOT
    > is so
    >> is NOT
    .............. its the way I said it is because I said so!
    so there!

    what a crock! Evidence indeed,
    The Video of WTC 1, 2 & 7 "collapsing" tells it all,
    but there are those who refuse to see......

    whatever ......
     
  8. LoneStrSt8

    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    You've been given links to the information,what more do you want?
     
  9. genericBob

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    From my reading of the material available in these "LINKS"
    there isn't anything that speaks of either the recovery of
    physical evidence proving that any airliner was ever at
    any of the crash sites and also, no data on any alleged
    testing for explosive or explosive residue.
    First I get told that I must instigate a Freedom of Information act
    request for INFORMATION, and later I'm told that the data exists
    in links that you have posted, but really WHERE IS IT?
    if you have a specific page of a given report to cite, go for it,
    however sending me to a link where NOTHING indicates that it
    has any data about physical evidence collection and identification,
    or explosives residue testing...... what is going on around here?

    Like I said, if the people who are so supportive of the
    radical Arab hijackers story had real INFORMATION
    why do they play games about providing it?
     
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    Freedom of Information Act - what have you requested directly from the source? You continue to whine about the lack of information, but you haven't done anything to acquire it.
     
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    you allege to have INFORMATION and fail to present it.
    previous links that you have posted, have NOT presented
    ANY data at all about the subject(s) that we were discussing.
     
  12. Hannibal

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    They were full of information. The trick is: You have to read it.

    The question to you is: In your search for information, what documents have you requested from the FBI via FOIA?
     
  13. genericBob

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    You really don't get how incredibly bad this looks for the "debunker"
    side of the argument, countless times I've asked for INFORMATION only to be handed links that either simply do not work, or do not provide the desired INFORMATION, the "debunker" side is allegedly in possession of INFORMATION that proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that 19 suicidal Arabs flew total of 4 airliners and crashed 3 of them into buildings. HOWEVER, what data is it that is the compelling evidence, and will you share with the forum what convinced you that the hijacked airliners story is the real deal?
     
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    For the links to work you have to read what they contain.

    You seem to be dodging a question, bob.
     
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    The "debunker" side alleges to have INFORMATION
    however when I check out the links posted here, there
    is NO data about the subject at hand ....
    note that a link to "NTSB report, "Flight Path Study- "
    when the subject at hand is the physical evidence of
    any airliner actually having been at any of the 4 sites.
    what am I to believe? If you can not produce a link
    to a document that actually has the data, then just say so...
    don't try to run me around in circles and try to make it look
    like I'm not doing enough to find the data, if the debunker
    side is in possession of this data, then lets see it (?)
     
  16. Hannibal

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    You seem to be the only one unable or unwilling to read through the links supplied.

    Also: what documents have you asked the FBI for via FOIA? I know I asked before but perhaps you missed the question. Surely someone so intent on the "truth" has obtained all of the reports available?
     
  17. Gamolon

    Gamolon Well-Known Member

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    And where are the page numbers and specific links to the data that supports YOUR assertions and claims? Here are just two.

    1. Where are your links to the data saying that the planes could NOT handle the speeds and manuvuers that the planes encountered?
    2. Where are your links to the data showing that the planes COULDN'T have penetrated the perimeter facade?
     
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    So, in other words, the "DATA" doesn't exist and we are left with
    interpretations based on what we see, and the debunker side
    would like to believe that the destruction of WTC7 doesn't look
    like a Controlled Demolition..... you can think what you like,
    but I know what I saw, and I'm in good company, I would much
    rather attend a party with David Chandler that the likes of Dr. Sunder.
     
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    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    Looks can be decieving..seems you're basing your notion that 7 was a 'controlled demolition' on the assumption that it couldn't be anything else
     
  20. genericBob

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    Not an "assumption" its about seeing the exact same thing
    that one sees with a controlled demolition, not to mention
    the total destruction of WTC7 ( not even a staircase left..... )

    Some people refuse to even recognize the significance of the destruction. the fact is that things do not get totally destroyed,
    unless somebody panned it that way, and don't tell me that the
    hijackers planned to totally destroy the towers......
     
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    You'd see the exact same thing from a building collapsing..
     
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    "collapsing" from exactly what sort of cause?
     
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    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    Doesn't matter
     
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    So first the debunker side insists that the "collapse"
    looks nothing like a Controlled Demolition, and then
    shifts to "buildings do that all the time....."
     
  25. Gamolon

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    Nope. The data exists, you're just ignoring it.
     

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