Fellow liberals, know this: what you think you believe, is not what you believe

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Golem, Apr 13, 2019.

  1. roorooroo

    roorooroo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    See, you just did what the OP is claiming about conservatives. You think you know what is in Hannity's mind when he does his show. You don't realize that Hannity's primary purpose is to make money?
     
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    ImNotOliver Well-Known Member

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    You are not convincing me in the least. In fact, I'm pretty sure that you are just making up stuff.
     
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    ImNotOliver Well-Known Member

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    Who pays him? He is paid to deceive you.
     
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    ImNotOliver Well-Known Member

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    I was reading up on the creation of the Heritage Foundation and FOX News, from the point of view of a conservative. It was intended all along, that they produce misinformation about Democrats and liberals, as a way of diminishing the popularity of the Democratic Party.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    They can't help themselves. It's in their DNA
     
  6. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    It's hilarious how right-wingers step all over each other to prove the point on the OP. Your statements are off-topic but 1- That's what I said 2- Wrong 3- How can a city be "illegal"? Don't bother responding. It's off-topic. Open your own thread.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    And the dictionary you used for the "translation" is, of course, "The Right Wing Talking Points Dictionary" right?

    Oh... you do such a great job proving my point!

    But, of course, I doubt you even notice. Hey! I would bet you don't even understand this post! You would read it over and over and still don't understand how you are confirming the OP, right?

    Of course you don't! Because you keep doing it again and again...

    So funny!
     
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  8. BuckyBadger

    BuckyBadger Well-Known Member

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    Nice deflection but you are wrong about this. Comments are directly related to your post. Maybe you should have spent a little more time reading it and understanding it.

    Also, Illegals commit a crime the minute they illegally step foot on US soil. So you are in favor of deporting all illegals, correct? After all, it is taken directly from your own words and your own post.

    Shall I link it for you or can you scroll back and see them?
     
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  9. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    I have delivered insults myself, and I have also in the past made idiotic comments that I later had to correct But I have never made a fool of myself by insulting somebody in the same phrase where I make an idiotic statement.

    There is not such thing as "race"!!!

    You have too much to learn before anybody can expect you to make any meaningful contribution.
     
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    :roflol:

    Now how can that be? The idiotic left has branded the entire conservative right as racists. You do know the root word of 'racist', don't you?
     
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    What you say and what you do are at odds given the necessity of believing one or the other I choose to believe what you do rather than what you say.
     
  13. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Not sure I understand what you mean.

    I'm not saying that what I describe on the OP applies to all right-wingers. That was not my intention. And if it appeared that way, I am happy to correct it. I have had interesting meaningful discussions with many right-wingers. But this is a behavior that I have only observed on the right. There is no equivalent on the left.

    Also, projection is not what I'm claiming about conservatives. I am only claiming projection about you. I indicated: I can (and have) given real examples of what I described on the OP. You haven't.

    You seem a bit confused about the topic under discussion. Projection is what you did. My point is that right wingnut media makes up a fake position and falsely ascribes it to the left. For example, they will say "liberals believe in open boarders". Which is false. Right wingers come here trying to find some liberal arguing in favor of open boarders. Obviously, they won't find any. So they just start arguing against open boarders with the first liberal that comes along. And when the liberal says that they don't believe in open boarders, the right-winger will announce "you are in denial", "you contradict yourself", "you are hiding the facts"..... No such thing happens the other way around. You cannot find an example. And claiming that liberals do the same can only be attributed to projection on your part. That applies only to you.
     
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    Ok. Given that it is now clear that the OP is 100% correct. Given that there are no more challenges. And right wingers just want to change the subject. Then..

    Let's have some fun.....

    Wrong! The large majority of so-called "illegal aliens" entered the country legally. Minors who are brought by their parents have committed no crime. Being in the United States is not a crime.

    And BTW, as so many have painfully learned: before accusing me of not reading or understanding something, you will also learn that you need to...

    Read my sig!

    The warning is there. Pay no heed at your own peril!.
     
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    BuckyBadger Well-Known Member

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    No, you are wrong. Any time an illegal steps foot on US soil, they are committing a crime. That is a fact, with question. Regardless of your assertion that the majority of "so called" illegals were here illegally. Even so, once they become illegal, they have committed a crime.

    So, are you in favor of deporting them all or just the selected ones you want removed.

    Otherwise, you are in favor of open borders and sending illegal aliens into Sanctuary cities.

    Got ya! :)

    Next time, please read and understand what I wrote correctly. Thank you. :)
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Because, even though "races" don't exist, racists do exist. As a matter of fact, one of the attributes of a racist is that they believe that a "race" is a real category in which people can be divided.. And that's the reason why it's the root.

    Other than that, there is only "the Human Race". No such thing in modern biology or anthropology as "race".

    See? You learned something. Don't bother thanking me. Any moderately educated person on this forum already knew it. The rest learned it here a long time ago.
     
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    I think everyone is reading way to much in to this thread! I simply see it as a admission of total confusion throughout the leftist party, something we Conservatives have know and suspected all along ¯\_(º¸º)_/¯
     
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    They sure do. Here is a nice example. Remind me, which one in the picture is Northam? The one in blackface or the one wearing the KKK robes?

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    Oh look, another Democrat being racist:

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    Maybe if the Democrats were not so upset over losing the Civil War, they would not have formed the KKK and tried to keep our African American citizens in shackles.

    The race card has been overplayed and we all know your claims are a farce. Much like the Russian Collusion lies. :)

    Need more examples of racism from Democrats in office? We got boatloads of them.
     
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    And you believe that voice is triggered by a forum post?
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Focus! It's not that complicated. If they come in illegally, they commit a crime. Your statement is that they all came in illegally. That is false! As I have proven. And, for you benefit, I explain here again.

    Pay attention! My assertion is that the majority of "so called" illegals entered here legally

    Do you have reading comprehension problems? No wonder you haven't read my sig.

    If they entered legally, and being here is not a crime... what crime did they commit?

    Having said that, in general I oppose extraditing the dreamers. And I favor a path to citizenship for those who meet the requirements in the proposal made by Governor Bill Richardson when he was running for President (and was picked up by a bi-partisan Congressional committee in 2010). All others should be deported. Those who apply but do not qualify for asylum must be deported. And we should have more judges at the boarders to process requests instead of "catch and release". Or some method (ankle bracelets, for example) to locate them.
     
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    It's very simple. If you cross the border illegally, you have committed a crime.

    It's very very very simple.

    Focus.
     
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    Why are all the threads on this forum from Conservatives, actual threads that are discussing policy.

    Then, all the threads started by Progressives are straw man, idiotic attempts to make someone or some ideology "look bad", when there is a completely identical example from their own party?

    It's pretty funny to watch, I think it has to do with Progressives not being able to handle it when other people think differently.

    Progressives are definitely the party that hates any kind of diversity.
     
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    Well, that's exactly the point of the whole thread

    What "conservatives have known and suspected all along" about liberals is what Hannity and similar nuts have told them. In reality, it is always wrong. .But that's how the dialog on the OP starts.

    If they had asked a real liberal, instead of just assuming "what conservatives have known and suspected all along", they would have realized that they had been lied to by the wingnut media. But then they'd be lost. No talking points.... What would you do with all those great "come backs" that Hannity (et al) made up to deliver to that hypothetical non-existent "liberal" that he fabricated for you guys.
     
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    Who is Hannity? I get all my news from Pluto and a firestick! I made that call from reading this forum and the Leftist that dwell here ¯\_(º¸º)_/¯
     
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    No thanks. I'm sure you do have boatloads. And I see how you appreciate your racist-porn collection. But it doesn't raise my libido the way it obviously does yours. To tell you the truth, I find it sick! So please keep it to yourself.
     

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