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NATO exists because of Russia thinking it has a claim on everything that bumps up against it's border. But when is the last time someone broke INTO Russia? Russia is dying from a low birth rated, drugs and alcoholism, and general malaise. Putin is probably afraid to push a button and fine out his warheads have been stolen and sold to a scrapyard in Bolsheville by now.

 

Any more flip flops you want to add? Heres some hints for ya
1. The US was only involved in Syria in 2013 to take out ISIS and provide 400 troops for local logistics. You can't take Syria with 400 troops. lol
2. The US attacked a Syrian base in 2018 killing over 200 Russian mercenaries for gassing the civilian population. Russia didn't stop it or retaliate because of it'
3. No US forces were ever deployed to take Syria.
4. The 200 Russian Mercenaries were killed in 2018, not 2013
5. Russia didn't stop the US from taking out ISIS or from bombing the Syrian air base

If you think you can dispute those statements, help yourself.
But we bot know you can't which is why you only post deflections
You will need to provide QUOTES from any link you provide that disputes them.

Now you can run

 

I've spent more than enough time with you explaining and getting the links you asked for, which you've ignored. The baiting and conversation is over.

 

NATO was formed against the expansion of the old USSR. Russia is not likely to make the same mistake again. You are aware the USSR no longer exists, don't you? The low birth rate, alcoholism and drugs is what we in the west are dying from. If NATO even thought for one minute Russia wasn’t a major nuclear power they’d have been in their like a shot years ago. China too.

 

What are you on about now?
For what purpose would anyone be in Russia? The logistics of such an operation would be a nightmare. What's the pay off? It's more people to feed.

 

Why do you think NATO has spent years advancing towards Russia who just happen to be a major oil producer?

 

People join NATO voluntarily.
Each nation has their own reasons, but recently it's because of Russias ambitions and land grabbing that's caused its recent expansion.

Without Russias Sabre rattling, a majority of nations could cut their defence spending by more than half.

But that has nothing to do with what you claimed...What benefit is there to taking on that many more people to feed? It's not worth the logistics.

 

The NATO advance eastwards has been going on for years. Being a part of NATO (all for one and one for all), shouldn't include trying to surround a major nuclear country with foreign missile bases targetting it. It's not something the US would accept either and didn't during the Cuban missile crisis.

 

That's not relevant to my question.

 

What was your question, was it this one? "What benefit is there to taking on that many more people to feed? It's not worth the logistics." It's because every NATO member has to pay a percentage of its GDP to buy weapons. American weapons. You don't think America is doing this for nothing, do you?

 

That's not accurate, but.
We are doing this because it's a very cost efficient method of disabling a hostile actor.

This was Putins plan anyway, and a nation paying a part of their GDP in support of its defence does not incentivise an invasion onto Russia.

Any other excuses why you think anyone wants to invade Russia?

 

That’s not accurate, but we are doing this because … If it’s not accurate you’re not doing it, surely. If there wasn’t a profit to be made, do you think the US would give a toss about NATO? Trump was already threatening to leave NATO unless countries started paying up.

It was Putin’s plan to make countries join NATO?

No, no other excuses. Failing to grab Middle East oil, there’s only Russia left.

 

We are going green, and don't even use our own oil...so you think we would spend trillions to invade Russia for more?

Why wouldn't corporations just export legally with less hassle?

 

We’re going green? You mean windmills and that nonsense? Have you heard the predictions for this coming winter? Pull yourself together Vernan, we’re approaching a self-inflicted disaster.

Always look at the bigger picture. The Middle East countries that were attacked, that had orchestrated coups and sanctions were all oil producers. Just by an amazing coincidence, Russia too is a major oil producer. Countries do not suddenly wake up one day and decide to invade others. What is happening now in Ukraine has been going on since 2014 as the Azov Nazi militias began ethnically cleansing Russians. The west sat back and did nothing.

Stop trying to argue and spend a little time researching instead. There’s no such thing as a mythical green energy and the ‘Woke’ movement and transsexuals we’re fawning over aren’t going to save us.

 

So in your mind Russia was the easiest target?

 

It’s not some fantasy in my mind. I remember the last three day working week in the 1970’s when industry ground to a halt because the oil stopped flowing. Outside the Middle East, Russia is the only major oil and gas producer. There is no one else and we need energy to survive. The green idealistic nonsense of wind farms and solar panels only worked while the oil was flowing. Both Germany and Britain are re-opening old coal fired power stations to try to avert a catastrophe this winter.

 

If I posted as much garbage as you did, and couldn't dispute the actual facts, I would run too.