Flight 93's missing proof

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  1. RtWngaFraud

    RtWngaFraud Banned

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    The highlighted response would be a "Duhhhhh....NOPE!....I don't."
     
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    Alright, let's test that.

    How logical is it that most of a 757 could bury, be fully excavated out of the ground and carted away, yet there's hardly any evidence it did, even though the media was fixed on the crater 24/7 minutes after it allegedly happened until the investigation was over?
     
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    I'm not an NTSB investigator but to me, images of the flight 93 crash site looks to be consistent with the official account of flight 93s fate. I do not know to what extent other airliners become buried in the ground but i don't think its unreasonable to assume that an airline can enter the ground if it hits the ground at a steep angle and high speed. The crash site looks remarkable similar to the crash sites of some other large commercial aircraft (several of which I posted). Ultimately, I have not seen any credible evidence that anything besides the official account of flight 93 took place. I have really tried to evaluate the events of 9/11 with an open mind that has not been biased by preconceived conclusions of the events. I do believe that elements within the gov't have been dishonest with the American people but I have seen nothing to convince me that 93 did not crash in pennsylvania. But thats just me.....
     
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    You also have Suede himself admitting that witnesses (plural) saw flight 93 nosediving near the crash site but did not see the crash. Okay....not one of these witnesses, not one...NOT ONE say anything about 93 pulling out of the nosedive they report and going about its merry way.

    Suede discounts this by pointing out that the multiple witnesses disagree on, get this, the angle of descent. He ignores that none of these multiple witnesses--ones that he admits saw the plane diving--saw the plane take off.

    The fact that the phone calls tell of the passenger's plans to rush the cabin, the CVR reporting the struggle in the cabin, and the fact that none of these passengers were ever heard from again after 93 crashed means nothing to him.

    He can't consider himself a serious commentator any longer.
     
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    Zero to none? Common sense would indicate that it didn't happen, which in turn, means the "official" BS supporters were fabricating things to fit the lie.
     
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    This article suggest that the flight voice recorder was found 25 feet underneath the ground.

    http://www.post-gazette.com/headlines/20010915blackbox0915p3.asp

    Here is an article which states that the remains recovered from the crash site have been identified and were going to be returned to their kin. Interestingly, the article claims that the crash site was searched by 400 volunteers. Odd that none of those volunteers have come forward with allegations that 93 did not crash their.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/02/26/national/main502204.shtml

    There is quite a bit of evidence that the flight did infact crash there yet there is little/no evidence that it did not crash there.
     
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    Very.

    But since it's not logical to you I'd like to here YOUR theory FROM BEGINNING TO END of what happened to Flight 93 that day.

    And don't waste my time by pointing me to some horse crap killtown site where everything is questioned but nothing is answered.

    Can you please tell me YOUR logical theory FROM BEGINNING TO END of what happened to the plane, passengers, their personal effects, why so many eye witnesses in Shanksville said what they said, why none of the volunteers have come forward to challenge the official story etc?
     
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    Well, all you got there pal, is a report claiming the plane was buried BY THE FBI. (We already knew that...we were looking for actual proof).

    Mr. Miller's stories have changed over time as well. The truth is the truth is the truth. It doesn't change when it retold (unless it's a lie).
     
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    Using your standard, is there any 'actual proof' that the plane did not crash there?
     
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    There isn't proof either way, just as is the case with light 77. We do have eyewitness testimony that the plane was on fire and coming apart in the sky, but that's not really proof either (despite the claim that it is from some in this forum). I'm just lookin' to verify what was supposed to have happened, and I can't. Nobody can. That's the point.
     
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    If they didn't mostly bury or leave wing scars, how are they similar?
     
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    A few people reportedly did. What's your point? My point was it GREATLY CONTRADICTED the official story's "crash" angle, so something can't be right.

    Go ask Viola Saylor[/quote]. She saw the aircraft, plus two white planes, so she said she "refused" to be a volunteer at the Flight 93 Memorial because she "wouldn't go along with the [official] stories--they weren't telling the right things."
     
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    Um, maybe you should respond to what I was actually asking:

    How logical is it that most of a 757 could bury, be fully excavated out of the ground and carted away, yet there's hardly any evidence it did, even though the media was fixed on the crater 24/7 minutes after it allegedly happened until the investigation was over?
     
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    Very logical? Please explain how that was logical.
     
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    Anyways, proof still missing about claim most of Flight 93 had buried.
     
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    Anyways, proof still missing about claim most of Flight 93 had buried.
     
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    Is there any proof that the person in row 6 seat A had their shoes tied?

    The importance is just the same.

    Life--get one.
     
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    I've noticed a lot of skeptics don't care about the truth.

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    The only thing buried is your movement. LOL And that is the truth.
     
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    No, most skeptics tend to have something called common sense and also a strong need to have ideas and concepts confirmed.

    Trust me, I am a skeptic. And the more and more is tied into theories like these, the more and more I look and say "this is crazy". I mean, you guys can't even agree with yourselves. Look behind the "truth" movement, and you find 100 conflicting conspiracies, all of them trying to say they are right.

    The US did 9/11 by itself. They used OBL as a puppet. The Jews did it. They brought down the towers with explosives they planted themselves. They brought them down with empty airplanes. There were no airplanes, those were cruise missiles.

    Then there is the group that says nothing brought them down but internal explosions, all the the reports and photos and video was all faked by "The Government" (I laugh at that one the most).

    This is what drives skeptics like me away in droves. We look at all of these claims, and realize that they are all crazy, and insane when looked at together.

    But each one is convinced their belief is the right one, and that all the evidence points to them being right and everybody else on the planet being wrong.
     
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    Good thing you included the word "most".. That way you can exclude the 9/11 commission and the vast majority of 9/11 skeptics in this forum, who accuse people of being behind the attacks without actually having evidence that proves it.

    It's only YOU people disingeniously trying to lump people together as one group...

    There are many people who disagree with the official story, they aren't all part of the same movement.

    YOUR belief about what happened on 9/11 is just as much disproven by no planers disagreeing than my belief.

    It's not.. But since you want to imply that my belief is less solid because I still disagree with no planers, then your belief is equally less valid or possible because you ALSO don't have no planers agreeing with you. That is if lack of consensus has any bearing on possibility of a claim, like you are saying, (but it doesn't).
     
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    The movement is a disorganized mass of self-aggrandizing "people" who seek to gain fame off of a tragedy. You should be ashamed to be part of it.
     
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    I'm not part of any "movement" any more than you are.. I chat about a topic on a forum the same as you.. That's about it. Don't care to be activist.

    Carry on lying though candy.
     
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    I think they're still working on that one (to be included in a continuing and never ending "note" in the "official" BS report).
     
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    Perhaps the movement should be ashamed of you; you perceive this worldwide conspiracy that threatens the country and your response is "Don't care to be activist." Wow...OK really. :omg:

    Not only are you full of prunes, you're apathetic about the entire subject.
     

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