Florida Approves Bill Allowing Classroom Teachers To Be Armed

You are talking about communism. And you're right. They dont openly advocate for it. But they do advocate for socialism. Burnie himself refers to his policies as "socialist" and even called himself a "democratic socialist". An oxymoron.

"In Marxist theory, socialism is the stage following capitalism in the transition of a society to communism. They are both founded on the idea of collective cooperation, but differs in that communists believe that cooperation should be run by a government made up of one political party"

Because socialism is a transitional phase, it employs both the collective system of communism (in the form of wealth distribution) as well as the systems of capitalism that its phasing out.

And yes. Go to prison. For what? To have total security that they want of course. The world is a dangerous place. Someone can say something mean to you. You can stub your toe and get hurt. You might even want free meals and housing.

Prisons are much safer and secure in comparison to the dangerous free world.

 

I would rather that than live in fear and mate if you can greet our atheistic population to kowtow to anything other than a cold beer on a hot afternoon you would be working miracles

And this is what you are not “getting”. The average Aussie does not see the government as a master. We see it as a servant. We voted them in we can vote them out

You can have “freedom” without having a gun

 

Are you reading my posts?

WE DONT NEED A BILL OF RIGHTS WE HAVE SOMETHING BETTER

 

No the government is elected by us and therefore our servants

 

Australia has less guaranteed rights

Less guaranteed rights equal less freedom

But leftists believe that having less guaranteed right makes you more free. And having more guaranteed rights makes you less free. Lol

 

In 1932, German people were also able to elect someone. And like Australia, they had very little guaranteed freedoms. If any at all. Who was the servant of whom?

Instead, the government which the people elected, decided which freedoms people should or should enjoy. As well as which type of people could enjoy it.

Being able to elect someone does not make you free. That logic is obviously fallacious. It has proven to be so over and over again, across many historic precedents.

 

Comparing Australia in 2019 to Germany in 1932?

 

If you think its better for the government to dictate your rights and freedoms. Then its better.

By that logic, democratic dictatorships are better. People elect a dictator. And that dictator makes the rules. Meanwhile, people have virtually no guaranteed rights.

 

Yes. It's to illustrate the point that being able to elect someone doesn't make you free. I used historic precedent to highlight that fallacious notion.
It must have went over your head...lol

Being able to elect someone doesn't make you free. Having guaranteed rights and freedoms does.

 

"How dare you want to make America great. That's unpatriotic"
That's too much. You're killing me here

In other words: Meh! Orange man bad!

But you're supposedly a teacher who has been teaching for 3 decades.

Oh, telling the truth isn't slander after all. Got it. Australia has less guaranteed rights and freedoms. So they are less free. Got it?
Unless you think that having less guaranteed rights and freedoms makes you more free? Leftists believe the most darnedest of things. So I wouldn't be surprised.

I provided logic consistency, Australia's own constitution to support the fact that they have virtually no guaranteed freedoms, and history precedent to highlight other's lack of logical consistency.

But I'm the uninformed one? Typical leftists and their ad hominem attacks. Instead of debating facts and logic, they just try to dismiss others all together. You sir have not made 1 substantive point.

 

No, they don't "advocate for socialism," and I was talking about socialism, not Marxism-Leninism.

Marxist blather about a world that will never exist.

Democrats are NOT talking about collectivizing production. You're perpetrating a fraud on the forum.

Prisons aren't dangerous places?

No kidding, that's one of the dumbest things I've read on this forum.

 

Uh huh. The Bill of Rights was worth spit to slaves and barely more than spit to blacks in the Jim Crow era. Rights on a piece of paper mean nothing unless they're enforced.

Have you been to Australia? Studied their history? Australians are a free people like we are. Is their system perfect? Is ours? No and no. But like us, Australians are vigilant protectors of their freedoms and their democracy. We both struggle against bureaucracies, and these days against the influence of large corporations.

 

Perhaps you should read more history so you can select from more realistic comparisons.

No, I spotted you making a dumb comment.

How naïve. There are no guaranteed rights, a piece of paper notwithstanding.

 

Bill of rights only apply to citizens. At that time, slaves weren't citizens.

Capitalism is color blind. The only color it sees is green. Restricting your business with segregation will cause you to be outcompeted by those who dont. It was because of this disparity that the Democratic party mandated segregation. To make things even for businesses across the board. Then the government had to fix their horrid mistake, and outline an exception that you cant discriminate based on race.

Long story short, government sucks!

Yet you want the same government that created Jim Crow to dictate your rights?
Go figure

And you were supposedly a teacher for 3 decades? No wonder our school systems are failing

Yes. And yes. I didn't say that Australia has no freedom. I said that America have more freedom. And that much of Australians freedoms are on shaky ground because they aren't guaranteed.

 

So, because I said our schools aren't very good and never were, in response to your claim liberals are wrecking them, is trashing America and the Orange Oaf and his follower drones saying the country is no longer great is not?

Yeah, I'm "killing" you by pointing out your stupid comments.

Your "truth" about Australia is ignorant nonsense. As I said, you're either gaslighting the forum or uninformed.

So writes the fascist who wouldn't recognize a conservative if one went upside his head.

You live in a fantasy world if you think the clueless BS you've said about Australia is even close to reality.

Your mama has cancelled your Fox News viewing privileges are cancelled.

 

Who created the concept of socialism?....


"The Communist Manifesto was written by Karl Marx & Friedrich Engels in 1848 just before the Revolutions of 1848 swept Europe, expressing what they termed "scientific socialism". In the last third of the 19th century, social democratic parties arose in Europe, drawing mainly from Marxism."



Lol. "They dont advocate for social Marxism. But they use it to argue their beliefs, and even take use their names; call themselves "democratic socialists""

Looks like a duck. Quacks like a duck. "I'm not a duck!"


So much for being a teacher.

 

I laughed at you horrid logic, that wanting to make this country great makes you unpatriotic. Or do you equate patriotism with fascism? I'm still laughing. If that logic works for a nation, does it work for your family as well? You became a teacher with that logic? No wonder our schools are failing.
Make America Great Again.

I substantiated my assertion with facts. We have more guaranteed rights. Where is your facts that Australia is more free by having less rights? That in itself is a contradiction.

When loosing, leftist often like to dismiss others by calling them "uniformed" without specifying how or why exactly. Nor explaining how the logic and facts that are used to support that argument are false.

Fascism involved less freedom and more government.

You have been arguing for less freedom. Went on about how Australian system, where the government dictates your rights is better.

But someone who argues for more freedom and less government, the opposite of fascism, is a fascist? Lol

Conservatives first and foremost believe in conserving our constitution. Leftist progressives want to rewrite it based on the wims of an era

Conservatives want to conserve our market systems. Leftist progressives want socialism

Conservatives want to conserve our America culture and argue for assimilation(melting pot). Leftists progressives want to erase our culture and argue for multiculturalism(salad bowl)

By every point you argued, you defined yourself as a progressive leftist.

Just read their constitution and compare it to ours. A lame man can see that we enjoy more freedom here.

 

Embarrassingly absurd. Do you have any idea about Jim Crow where in my lifetime nearly all blacks in some states were denied the right to vote? And you're going on about rights in this country being superior? The government you say sucks finally acted to insure blacks were no longer denied the right to vote by whites acting outside the law.

I taught history among other subjects and no student who has your level of historical knowledge would have passed my course.

Based in what? You know almost nothing about Australia. (Hell, you don't seem to know much about this country, either.)

Oh, you mean like the voting rights blacks had in this country? Those rights?

 

Illinois is controlled by Republicans? California? Maryland? Since when?

I am addressing the problem. The overwhelming majority of gun crime in the US happens inside cities controlled by Democrats. That is the unifying theme of America's disproportionate levels of gun crime, is the political influence of Democrats.

 

You're in waaayyyy over your head. Marxism-Leninism is not Marxism. For Marx, socialism was a step in the dialectic that ultimately ends in communism where the state withers away. There's no reason to believe Marx would have ever endorsed Marxism-Leninism.

As I said, I was talking about socialism. Democratic pols are NOT advocating collectivized production. Without that, there is no socialism.

You tried that one already. As I said, you wouldn't have passed my history class. That any teacher or school would pass someone with your level of understanding nicely illustrates the intellectual bankruptcy of our public school system.

 

The stupidity here is astounding

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_governors_of_Illinois

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_governors_of_California

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_governors_of_Maryland

Since when? Try the past half-century.

No, you're demagoguing the issue.

If some Democrats have their way, they would disarm the public. Would that work? Probably. It has in other countries. (I'm not advocating that, btw.)

We have a lot of handgun violence in cities, not much handgun violence outside of urban areas, and not much long gun violence, period. Can we look at solutions without blaming Democrats when they have solutions that Republicans are resisting because they don't agree with them?

 

It's all yours.

 

Try the history of blacks being denied voting rights "guaranteed" citizens by the Constitution.

 

Long story short, government sucks!

Yet you want the same government that created Jim Crow to dictate your rights?