Florida Approves Bill Allowing Classroom Teachers To Be Armed

With great difficulty but at least you can make his task no so easy.

 

Schools should do a better job of securing their facilities, but they're government-run and the people in charge operate them according to their priorities and with little consequence for screwing up. Keeping school doors locked requires monitoring the exits. That takes time and/or resources.

Of course, but that doesn't mean people are going to accept "sh't happens." Because of that, we're allowing people to have guns to defend themselves, hiring security guards for public places, and on and on. As such, guns are costing us money.

Welcome to the real world.

 

Firearm deaths per capital are more than ten times higher in this country.

 

Australia is not America. They don't have our laws or constitution. You minus well Quote China. People aren't allowed to own guns there either. Nor are they allowed to speak freely, nor have many of our constitutional rights. If at all

Leftists go on about white privilege, evil patriarchy, and white men as if they want to conquer them in order to flip the percieved scale. Perhaps that's why they argue for gun control.

“The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subjugated races to possess arms. History shows that all conquerors who have allowed their subjugated races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing. Indeed, I would go so far as to say that the supply of arms to the underdogs is a sine qua non for the overthrow of any sovereignty. So let’s not have any native militia or native police.” -Adolf Hitler

 

They have less freedom per capita

If leftists want to have socialism and gun control, if they want total security, then they should go to prison.

"If you want total security, go to prison. There you're fed, clothed, given medical care and so on. The only thing lacking... is freedom."
---Dwight D. Eisenhower

 

If my students think I might shoot them for misbehaving, I should be in another line of work.

Ah, once again you're bloviating to dismiss a possible consequence of teachers carrying in schools.

 

Then you'll be like London. New York had more guns and a higher population, yet London, who banned guns has a higher murder rate. London banned guns, so people started to use knives. Now the Mayor of London banned knives.

If someone is trying to kill you, that 5-15 minutes that it takes the police to come is too long. Without a knife or a gun, to defend yourself with, you'd be long dead. Its inhuman to not alway people to have the means to properly defend themselves.

Here in America, the supreme court ruled that the police's job is not to protect your life. Their job is to stop crime. You have your life in your hands. Its foolish to give it to others.

The only people will will not have guns are those who refuse to break the law.

 

Oh, geez--that's BS.

 

Absurd. You're either gaslighting the forum or you have no clue about Australia.

 

Australia has no national bill of rights. Only a few scattered guarantees.

Go back to school

 

Actually we CAN own guns. We just have to satisfy the correct legal requirements I.e.

1) don’t be a crim
2) don’t be a raving lunatic
3) have the physical capability to actually aim the thing, in the right direction at least 4 times out of five
4) Actually have a need for a gun as opposed to just wanting one for a phallic symbol

 

Sure we have no Bill of Rights. Have you heard of common law, which we do have?

Leaving guns aside, what rights do you reckon you have that we don't? (If ya gonna go 'freedom of speech...the 1st Amendment'....I'll raise you with an Assange.)

 

No WE have something BETTER. I know that sounds crazy but when we wrote our constitution we had a bloody good look at how others worked and decided that the Britsh system of an underpinning principle was far wider reaching so went with that

It is called the Principle of Natural Justice

Unlike your “rights” which are “granted” by the government ours is the assurance that the government not only should do right by us but MUST do right by us. In other words we, the people are in control

 

Bulldust!

In what way do we have “less freedoms”? And do NOT give me bull about guns. I want you to quantify it.

https://www.cato.org/human-freedom-index-new

 

So having armed guards at a bank is totally sane, but having armed guards at a school is not?

Do you think there are no teachers in Florida who are qualified to carry a firearm inside a school?

What about teachers who also have a history in the military or law enforcement?

 

You can toss as many 'what abouts' at me as you like. I can always riposte with.....stop the guns. No guns, no kids at school get shot. It is hardly credible to compare a Bank which historically is a target for baddies...with a Primary/High School. More guns is not the answer. No guns is the answer.

 

I would rather live in a country where armed guards are not required for schools

 

Except for the military and the police. They'll still have guns.

Anyway, even if you somehow managed to get rid of all private firearms, there would still be serious security threats to schools that would require an armed guard.

They're both targets for bad people, just for different reasons. Yet you are fine with armed guards in one but not the other. Why?

No guns is a pipe-dream that will never happen. America needs a realistic solution that will have an immediate impact. Armed guards inside schools is a big part of that solution, just like it is for banks and courthouses.

 

Okay, well that is not reality and probably never will be. So unless you have a realistic and better alternative to improving the security at schools across the US, you should not obstruct something that could actually save lives in the here and now.

 

The overwhelming majority of gun violence in the US happens inside cities controlled by Democrats. Must be a coincidence.

 

Assange? Your government has totally abandoned him and fed him to the wolves. And just recently, your government raided the home of a journalist who was revealing government secrets. You're slowly becoming an Orwellian police state.

 

So explain why it is ONLY in the USA where in the first half of 2018, there was a massacre eackweek at a US School, and there has never been one in Australia and most of the Planet?

I am not so much 'fine' with it. Anywhere there is money, even here in Australia, there are armed guards.

Pipe dream it is and it needs to be made reality by Team USA. You boast about your freedoms. Come on...it seems to me that you are 'free' butonlyl to the extent as how well you can arm yourself. What sort of whacky 'freedom' is that? Huh? I can walk anywhere here and be completely confident that some gun-nut is not about to randomly shoot me. I have no gun.

"You" have one......and "you" say it is........TO PROTECT YOURSELF. How come you need one for that, and I don't?

 

What do you expect our Government to do. Ring Trump and demand that he lay off Assange? Would that not be our Mob trying to white ant your judicial processes?

Yes, our Governmentent did that...and then it (...........the equivalent of your Republicans) raided the HQ of two major media outlets including our National Broadcaster. No doubt about it. Orwell looms large when conservatives have the helm.

 

How do you restrict the availability of guns to criminals? What... you suggest if we stop selling guns, criminals won't be able to get them?

 

Then there is actually no need for the united states to implement new firearm-related restrictions.

First, such does not even attempt to answer the question that was presented. Are gang bangers made up of individual who legally own firearms and who have done nothing wrong?

Second, even in states where firearm permits are required, both for the ownership of firearms, and for the carrying of firearms in a public venue, gang bangers and other prohibited individuals are still carrying firearms with impunity. Why? Because as was stated on the part of yourself, the united states simply does not enforce the firearm-related restrictions that already exist.

As such, there is no legitimate reason to try and have new firearm-related restrictions implemented until such trends are actually fixed.