For Those People Who Believe Police Are Angels...Grow Up

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  1. Professor Peabody

    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Dejon Marquee White (L) is believed to have shot Officer Jeremy Henwood (R) Saturday

    This aspect of the Police is rarely talked about.
     
  2. Johnny-C

    Johnny-C Well-Known Member

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    Exactly!!
     
  3. Esau

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    they subscribe to the white saviour industrial complex which transformed from the kkk.
     
  4. Esau

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    some would see that as a shift from slavery days to bravery days and taking a stand against brutality.
     
  5. garyd

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    Some would see that as being an acted of gross stupidity for no good reason other than he's read too much Al Sharpton. For people like Sharpton every attempt to arrest a criminal who doesn't surrender on the spot is an act of brutality.
     
  6. doombug

    doombug Well-Known Member

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    I don't care if the cops are corrupt. Why? I am not a criminal. Cops have to deal with some of the worst people in society. I do not care if they crack some skulls every now and then.
     
  7. Professor Peabody

    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Do you really think it's wise for 13% of the population to start a race war?
     
  8. Esau

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    considering 50 % of whites would join that 13%, make your own conclusion.
     
  9. heresiarch

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    When people justify a policemen beating an innocent to near death because it's a stressful job, then something is very wrong about these people.
     
  10. BoDiddly

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    Why would you assume every suspect police deal with is guilty of something?
     
  11. lizarddust

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    I'm wondering if American police are just a little twitchy because of all those guns in the community?
     
  12. willburroughs

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    The first 'grow up' should go out to the pathetic losers who demonize the police, view all (or most of them) as corrupt, incompetent, etc.. Of course, this is when people wail in indignation that they do no such thing, that they 'appreciate cops, just not the bad ones'. Nothing but B.S. blather. This board is riddled with these losers who hate cops in general. And they are invariably the same ones who are outraged when somebody makes a generalized comment about blacks or other minorities.
     
  13. Strasser

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    Not really. Given the number of firearms in private hands here in the U.S., it's practically a non-existent issue, except in minority communities where the largest part of the violence tales place. Most parts of the U.S. are as safer, or safer, than many parts of western Europe. Of course, nobody is going to beat Japan in the violent crime stats, and that's because they're not stupid enough to import massive numbers of aliens into their country.
     
  14. Strasser

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    Latest FBI stats, 2013 officers killed, assaulted in the line of duty:

    27 were killed during "Felonious Assaults"

    49,851 were assaulted, 14,585 sustained injuries

    Banks robbed in 2014, the latest available:

    Grand Total - All Violations: 3,961

    Male Robbers by race:
    White Males: 1770
    Black Males: 2030
    Hispanic: 258
    Other: 68
    Unknown: 221

    Female robbers total:
    Females: 349

    233 men and women remain unapprehended, or 5%.

    So how do these numbers of assaults stack up against the hysterical gibbering diaper wetting nonsense re some alleged pandemic of police violence?
     
  15. Pred

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    People who don't think they're racist rarely look inside and wonder why THEY attach race to certain stereotypes even when race isn't mentioned. They insert race into what they see and read and make assumptions. But when you call them out you're met with hum a na hum na hum......

    I find it utterly fascinating because deep down they're appalled by the concept that they are far more racist than than those they accuse.
     
  16. upside-down cake

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    The point is that police abuse people, whether they are criminals or not. Abuse of criminals should not be tolerated either. When you allow crimes to be committed against criminals, you just make more criminals. More to the point, they are commiting criminal acts themselves- and this is not limited to abuse charges. Cops have to deal with some of the worst people in society, yes, but sometimes they are part of the worst people in soceity- especially when operating from an office of public trust.

    It's a pretty shocking thing to say that you don't care if they do these things and seem to suggest that one group of criminals is okay and another group is bad- especially when one group- the police- are just an extension of a criminal infrstructure that okays the harassment or abuse of a particular group or people.

    But at least I see where your thinking stems from...
     
  17. Strasser

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    Actually some police occasionally abuse a few (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)s. The silly gibberish that there is some big giant gestapo state running amuck is retarded drama queen infantilism..
     
  18. BleedingHeadKen

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    A few things that must be done to drastically reduce police corruption and back away from the rapidly growing police state:

    * Eliminate qualified immunity
    * Government employees who have inappropriate interactions with citizens should be fired and prevented from serving in a public position again. A blue costume doesn't magically disqualify them from this.
    * Government employees, including those who enforce government rules (cops), must be held to the same standards for criminal charges as all citizens.
    * Settlements paid out for inappropriate actions with citizens come from the departments that hired the person who caused the problem. In other words, no more taxpayers funding the consequences of police abuses. It comes from their pension funds.
     
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    Is it? Or is it just honesty.
     
  20. Capitalism

    Capitalism Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    13% of the population committed more than the majority. Oh bother.

    Now someone will label statistics as racist, just wait for it.
     
  21. garyd

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    First cops already are held to the same standards as everyone else. 2nd exactly who do you think funds those departments? Money trees in their back yard? Every damn dime every city department gets comes form the tax payers in one way or the other. What are you talking about with qualified immunity?
     
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    It's both. It's honest and horrible.
     
  23. BleedingHeadKen

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    No, they aren't. How many examples would you like? I get dozens a week.

    The point is that they have no culpability or accountability for their abuses. When there is a loss, it is absorbed by the general funds of the localities, rather than the police department. All too frequently cities and towns are raising taxes to cover the cost of lawsuits over police abuses.

    Strange that conservative claim to be all about personal responsibility. I guess that magically goes away when it's an armed government bureaucrat in a badge.

    If you aren't even aware of that, why do you think you are armed to come to this discussion? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qualified_immunity
     
  24. SpaceCricket79

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    Don't believe they're angels at all, no.

    But I'm not on the 'conspiracy' side of the table either which seems to think there's some wide 'conspiracy' by cops to create a police state.

    I think that's just as silly as the idea that they must be all wonderful upstanding fellows just because they're in a uniform.
     
  25. jackson33

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    Has it occurred to you, that in this day of instant fame (social media), many people are instigating situations to entice cops into appearing over reacting? Why would any person, today knowing they have many camera's recording their every move, purposely or knowingly try to harm another person. Most your referring to have years on the job, with families and the dream of advancing in the ranks of law enforcement.

    I'm sure there are "bad cops" and many should not be policing anything, but they are not the majority and in today's world, one minor error, misjudgment, even some instances of unintended harm, can ruin a person entire career or life.

    Keep up preaching this stuff and before you know it and those that will do the job, won't be protecting anybody. What's happening in Baltimore, Chicago and NYC today, are real and all those rising death rates, will be the norm. Most of those dying, because law enforcement fears being labeled, would have loved a rough cop protecting them, as they died.
     

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