Former LGBTQers Testify: If You No Longer Want to Be Gay or Transgender, You Don't Have to Be

Very interesting read. Here are real life examples of people who lived the homosexual lifestyle who no longer do and claim their lives have drastically improved because of it. Should we consider them all liars? Or is conversion belief for some fundamentalists a one way street?




CAPITOL HILL—A number of former homosexuals and transgendered people gathered recently outside the U.S. Congress to say sexual identity can be changed, and their changed lives are proof.

Here are excerpts from their remarkable testimonies of change.

APRIL LOCKHART FROM ALBUQUERQUE, NEW MEXICO:
"I am a former lesbian. I'm very passionate about this topic because I really embraced that life. I won't talk about how or why I went into that lifestyle. But I fully embraced it, and I was confident in who I was and I sought it out. I was a champion for the LGBT and I really even liked to just be out there and promote it."

"I had fully believed in this lie that gets perpetuated that people don't change, they can't change, and if you try to change them, it's detrimental to their health. And I just want to say that's a lie."

"I almost missed out on some of the best and most precious moments of my life. I wasn't going to get to get married. I wasn't going to meet my husband. I wasn't going to get to have my own children. This is not something that my mind was even open to. I didn't know that it was a possibility for me. And I stand before you now a changed woman. I don't struggle with same sex attraction. It's almost like it never was for me. And so I would like for that lie to stop being perpetuated. It's just simply not true. People can and do change if they want. And we need to be allowed as free Americans to seek that out. Nobody has the right to tell you you can't be what you want to be. And I did want change. And through the Power of God, the Creator of heaven and earth, this was able to happen. These days were able to happen. These moments. And I'm a happy woman. I don't suffer depression. I don't suffer with anxiety. I don't drink myself into stupors like I used to have to."

https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/202...-to-be-gay-or-transgender-you-dont-have-to-be

 

Them changes is kinda like Buddy Miles' Them Changes.

 

I really feel for those who go through sexual reassignment surgery, only to realize later on that they've made a mistake.

Full stop - surgery and hormone treatment should be illegal for anyone under the age of 18.

 

As far as, "Message T-Shirts" (Worn by Hired Actors)...

..."CHANGED" is the New "Blacks for Trump"

Too funny.:smh:.

 

If anyone wants to go back to wherever they started, that's fine. Its wonderful if you think it is!

But this has nothing to do with the "conversion" sites and religious persons want to who lock people up, or program them with with coersive acts like sleep deprivation, electrical shocks, drugs, abuse etc

There is no legitimate use for these abusive methods for "conversion" like that.

 

It should also be noted that sexual orientation and gender identity are two separate subjects that I don’t think should be lumped together like this (either for or against).

They’re all individuals. I doubt they’re lying about their experiences and decisions, though some may spin their story to favour the image they want to express, both in the negativity of their past and the unconditional positivity of their present). They could be lying (even to themselves) about their underlying feelings, attractions and orientation though.

The simple fact is that most of us are sexually or even emotionally attracted to other people that we shouldn’t be for some social reasons and most of us just deal with that fact. And throughout recorded history there are examples of people who clearly had attraction to someone of the same sex but never acted on it (at least not publicly) because of the social pressures. While those social pressures have lessened in general Western society, these people are living in part of society where is hasn’t so the same behaviour would be expected. I don’t think these examples prove anything other than that people can make decisions about what they do despite orientation, desire or emotion but that doesn’t mean those underlying feelings have been changed.

I think it’s also telling that a lot of these people talk about personal traumas leading to their “changing”, the same kind of personal traumas that are often blamed for people becoming gay in the first place (sometimes also in the specific stories). I don’t see how you can condemn a change on that basis in one direction yet celebrate the reverse on a similar basis at the same time. Such traumas may well push an individual in a particular direction as with the social pressures but again, that doesn’t mean they’re fundamentally changing and the destination as a result of that trauma, regardless of what it is, could be positive or negative.

Ultimately, if these people have truly found a way to live with who they are happily and healthily, I can only be happy for them but I don’t think it’s right for them to go on to suggest that anyone who has found a different way to do the same is bad and wrong (which is, unfortunately, what a lot of Christians literally say, which is why that aspect is an unnecessary complication).

 

POLITICIZING RELIGION while demonizing the LBGT community AGAIN?

Yes, that is EXACTLY what this OP is all about because the PURPOSE of the Current Event forum is for discussing "the latest political news not applicable to other categories".

The term "church" is mentioned 11 times.
The term "god" is mentioned 12 times.
The term "change/d" is mentioned 38 times.
The term "LGBT" is mentioned 9 times.
The term "gay" is mentioned 3 times.
The term "homosexual" is mentioned 8 times.
The term "lifestyle" is mentioned 7 times.
The term "trans..." is mentioned 11 times.
The term "sex" is mentioned 7 times.

So yes, the OP is all about the POLITICIZATION of RELIGION for the NEFARIOUS purpose of disparaging the LGBT community again!

The OP asks if we should consider them all to be liars?

The question should be is WHY does this OP VIOLATE the SEPARATION of Church and State for a nefarious religious based political agenda of demonizing the LBGT community?

 

When I was arguing on behalf of same sex marriage I often stated that being a homosexual is a choice and/or environmental, even genetic. So this doesn't surprise me in the least. However they are wrong in that all people can change. Like I said, homosexuality is not just a choice. It can be caused by environmental factors and/or genetics. Throughout human history there has been evidence that homosexuality has existed. Through out nature (over 1,000 different species) where animals are instinctual and therefore do not make choices there is homosexuality present. So to claim that homosexuality is changeable in everyone is false. It may be for some people who chose it (whether they realized it or not) to be able to change. But not everyone can choose no matter how much they wish they could.

 

Just because you don't believe in Jesus Christ, that works miracles, sorry yes it does for the ones who believes..


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LGBTQ is a "thing", sort of a popular "thing". You know? A bit like the millennium "thing" when everyone was talking about the millennium this and the millennium that.

Allow me a small digression. In the sixties, it was popular for boys to have long hair. Before that, it was nearly a crime and you could even be tossed out of school for having long hair. So yes I had long hair and anytime anyone criticised me for it I gave them the standard reply, "What difference does it make how long my hair is if I'm a good person?". Then one day I saw in a magazine that John Lennon had shaved his hair. So I did the same. But all of my "liberal & groovy, free-spirited" friends criticized me for it so I asked them, "What difference does it make how short my hair is if I'm a good person?" But they didn't get it and I lost some friends over the issue. I guess they weren't so free-spirited after all. Phoneys!

Sure, if people tried the LGBTQ thing and decided it wasn't all that it's cracked up to be (no pun intended) then good for them for making their lives the best that it can be. Screw the PC, liberal, fluid genders (still no pun intended) if they feel betrayed.

 

I don't see how anyone can disagree with that.

 

Jesus Christ didn't make Humankind. God did. And God does not mind Homosexuality, otherwise he wouldn't have made over a thousand of His creatures be able to perform it.

 

Good point. And once I had a 104 by the way.

 

Agreed.

 

That's not what the word of god says, and how could you populate the world if you are procreating with the same sex before the late 1700s

 

A "104"?

 

Word of God also says thou shall not judge.

 

Your avatar is a Peugeot badge.

 

Where in my post did I judge anyone? I asked a question.

 

Did God give us Free Will or not? And where do you get this "word of god"? The bible? The same bible that was written by a council of men that had to make a rule that while they were creating the bible no one in the council or attending the council to create the bible would be charged with heresy? How can a Bible (any bible) truly be "of God" if they had to have such a rule?

And if you study history you will find out that homosexuality has been a part of human civilization at least since we started recording history. Always in small numbers, but still there. And how do you account for the 1000+ species of animals that have displayed homosexuality? They have no Free Will. Only instinct of what God gave them.

The problem with following the Bible is that it is fallible. Because it was made by man. Not God.

 

Ah!

Thanks for clarifying!

Yes it is and I use a 3008 when I am working overseas.

 

That's right. The Supreme Being created cars and He also created garages, some of which open at both ends. That's not the fault of humans.

 

My question remains the same if God said it was ok for same sex, how could the world be populated, wouldn't humankind die out?

And you do remember Sodom and gormorah, when the townspeople wanted to have gay sex with angels correct?

 

Nice! I am particularly fond of the rare 1960's 504 coupé. Sleek.

 

Only if homosexuality prevailed to the point of over taking those having children. And that hasn't ever happened. Like I said, if you study history you will find that homosexuality has existed at least as long as recorded history. Always in small numbers. Besides, now a days you don't need to have sex with someone of the opposite gender in order to have kids. Medical technology is quite wonderful.

Prove that Sodom and Gormorah actually happened as the Bible tells it.