Discussion in '9/11' started by l4zarus, Oct 12, 2014.
Remember to stay on topic.
the funny thing is the "No Plane Theory" is considered by the majority of Truthers, to be cointelpro by the govt, agents.
From the late George Carlin, you gotta watch out for consensus,
all too many times "consensus" is WRONG.
it really and truly is painful to me to contemplate the fact that I'm the maverick here, I'm considered the totally weird character who sees things that very few others either see, or will admit to seeing, and yet
what I KNOW about not only the laws of physics, but also human nature and the nature of a flim-flam game, is that the events of 9/11/2001 constitute a huge fraud as told by the mainstream media. And then we get stuff like the infamous rants by the likes of Rachel Maddow ( & others who insist on labeling anyone who questions the official version of events as crazy people! )
When I was in school many years ago, I rented an apt. with a room-mate and this particular apt. had a seriously sloping kitchen floor, however, until I pointed it out, my roomie didn't notice it at all, was totally unaware until I mentioned it, and then he became aware of it.
There is a HUGE problem here in that there are features to the events of 9/11/2001 that if the mainstream media is to be taken seriously, constitute violations of the laws of physics, however even when these violations are pointed out, most people are content to call me a crack-pot rather than embrace the obvious.
brother, I gotta tell you..
its 2014, and your adventure is over.
no one cares, not anymore.
To quote George the great,
"Nobody seems to notice & Nobody seems to care"
and if this is truly the case, AMERICA is doomed!
*cue spooky music
Release Chicken Little ... The Sky. Is Falling!!!!!
oh well, I guess we're doomed.
So people have fun complaining about the "fringe cases"
while Rome burns ..... whatever!
Rome is burning? Alert the Pope.
More like our CONSTITUTION ( etc ..... ) is burning and if the citizens of this land do not rescue it, AMERICA will be an entirely different country in a generation or less. The "powers that B" already control the indoctrination of your kids.
The country, the world changes with each generation. Always has.
Panicking and inventing wild conspiracies doesn't help.
Are you perpetuating the notion that in order for an extremely large aircraft to penetrate a building, it has to "slow down" or else it is a huge hoax? There is no "slowing down" with an airspeed of nearly 500 miles per hour in the distance equal to the length of the aircraft.
Wow man, what ever happened to that claim of 590 mph?
and the not slowing down would have to be a function of lack of resistance on the part of the wall, and so in looking at the construction of the WTC tower, your gut-level educated guess is that the tower would offer up only negligible resistance to penetration by an aircraft?
Not only is the penetration itself problematic, but the fact that both "FLT11" and "FLT175" did the very same thing, that is penetrate completely so as to make the aircraft virtually disappear.
and given the variables involved, that is a rather good trick.
It 'virtually disappeared' only in the context that it punched through the outside wall into the inside
There would have been no slowing down at almost 500 or 590 mph
Just attempted obsfuscation on your part
So you believe that any resistance to penetration
would be totally negligible?
Why is it that nobody has a figure for the strength of a box column?
You've been shown the FEA videos that show the engineering data used to create the model of the impact. Why is it that nobody from the truther movement, be it engineer or otherwise, cannot produce ANY calculations of their own to refute this video?
If it was impossible for the plane to penetrate the perimeter facade the way it did, some truther engineer would have surely jumped on the opportunity to proof otherwise.
Nobody from your movement will touch it with a ten foot pole because it's based on calculations and fact.
Deal with it.
Why is it you ignore that the outer facade was mostly windows,which allowed an easier time for an airliner to pass through,with NO perceptible slowing?
Prove "mostly windows"
and while you are at it, explain the broken steel that can be seen where the alleged airliner was said to have penetrated the wall.
USE YOUR EYES,Bob.....geeze!
And the explanation is that an airliner hit the steel at fullspeed
And there is nothing alleged except your understanding of the events of 9/11,and your understanding of physics
this is the only post that matters on this thread,everything said after this post is all irrelevent..
Back to the OP, Bollyn is a noted anti-Semite and nut case.
As 9/11-troofers go, Christopher Bollyn is in at the deep end. A self-proclaimed “independent American investigative journalist”, Bollyn is for the most part a contributor to the despicable cesspool of lunacy whale.to, but many interesting articles can be found on his webpage. Among the gems are articles with enticing titles such as “The Israeli Role in the Plundering of Iceland”, “How Ehud Barak Pulled Off 9-11”, “The Goldman Scam & John Paulson's Links to 9-11”, “The Gang of Czech Jews around the Collapses of 9-11” and “The Jewish Secret Society That Controls the U.S. Media” (I cannot be bothered to check out his explanation of why the US is involved in Afghanistan, but it is surely rewarding).
I guess the reader gets the idea. 9-11 was the product of a Zionist conspiracy (in particular organized by the Rothschild family) – the Zionist conspiracy that controls the US government and media. They have also infiltrated the Senate, as shown by Bollyn’s razor-sharp and fearless investigations, e.g. “Arlen Specter - The Elder of Zion in the U.S. Senate”. Henry Kissinger is at the top of the conspiracy, and “still a key player in the crimocracy as seen by the conspicuous fact that he was sent by the new Obama administration to meet with the leadership of Russia, although the nominal Secretary of State was Hillary Clinton.” I guess you can’t argue with evidence like that.
A tidbit: “Christopher J. Petherick, a self-avowed Satanist, was the editor of American Free Press and the former Spotlight, publications of the Liberty Lobby of Washington, D.C. It makes no sense that a Satanist would be the chief editor of a newspaper that is purportedly written for patriotic Christian Americans, unless one understands that the Liberty Lobby is actually owned and controlled by a Zionist Jew named Mark Lane. The paper is a controlled opposition outlet that acts like flypaper to create a list of active patriots -- for the Jewish intelligence organization Lane works for.”
Who is Petherick? Well, he is the newspaper editor who fired Bollyn back in the day. Of course he must be a Zionist – why else would he try to shut up a honest and brave journalist like Bollyn? Apparently Petherick later organized an assault of Bollyn (using police officers who tasered him) to … shut him up? It's a little unclear. And apparently the incident is related to the real reason for the war in Afghanistan. So it goes.
Oh, and apparently the sinking of Estonia wasn’t an accident and there is depleted uranium everywhere. And Denmark is being set up by the American Zionist conspiracy to take the brunt of Muslim anger (cf. the Mohammed cartoons).
There is really no end to the conspiracies and paranoia here. For a “best of” selection, you can go here. Enjoy.
Diagnosis: Complete loon and master at interpreting the fact that anyone disagrees with him, for whatever reason, as evidence for the truth of his conspiracy theories. Specific impact uncertain, but his views are apparently relatively widespread and must be considered dangerous.
So the allegation that somebody who supports the FALSE FLAG attack definition of 9/11, is in one way or another morally unacceptable to YOU, therefore the entire quest for TRUTH is discredited and considered bogus?
WTF? How did you jump to such a conclusion?
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