Four Russian soldiers are dying for every one Ukrainian.

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  1. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Don't forget that 10 Russian soldiers died for every Finnish solider in the 1939 Russia-Finnish invasion, but Russia still ended up winning.
     
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  2. Thingamabob

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    There are lots of men who love their wives, their dogs, their cars, their canary. Is there a point you'd like to make? If so maybe you should state it. So far you've said nothing and you are blaming "nothing" on Trump.
     
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    ... and there are the Vietnamese too.
     
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    Times are not the same.
    Russians are more connected than they were 80 years ago. Very soon a lot of Russians will personally know someone who died or was mutilated by the war in Ukraine.
     
  5. kazenatsu

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    Well, the Russians are using mercenaries now, to do some of the dirtier work.
     
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    I've made my point, you simply can't handle the point, not my concern however. Trump discredited and weakened NATO whining loudly, doing the dirty work for Putin as was expected of him. Pretty sure Putin waited hoping Trump would get a second term and then would ultimately support his move to take Ukraine.
     
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    They catch a lot of conscripts in Ukraine. ;)
    Russians lie about sending only professional army into Ukraine.
     
  8. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's an oversimplification. Trump wanted the other European allies to pay a larger share of the money.
    He could only push them to do this by reducing the amount of money America would provide.

    Other European countries don't want to do this because it means they will have to reduce their social spending schemes (like providing government-paid medical care).

    It's kind of ironic because most of those on the Left complain America spends too much on military spending. But here you are, apparently trying to disparage Trump because he didn't spend enough.
     
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    And they are paying on the exact timeline that the Obama Admin laid out before leaving office. Trump just whined about it and took credit, the schedule was already set by the Obama Admin and NATO countries and did not change.
    It's 2% of GDP for all member nations.
     
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    LOL....comparing Nato troops to Wehrmacht now....reaching aren't we thingybobby....you desperate or does it burn your backside:))
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    America would be in a better military and financial position if it were not in so much debt. Everyone knows this.

    It's long been predicted that America's financial state of affairs will eventually prevent the country from intervening in other parts of the world like it has in the past.
     
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    Just because he wasn't allowed to implement his full authoritarian dream .. does not mean he is not Authoritarian .. your logic is non existent.

    Pining away about what Biden was not able to do - doesn't change the fact that what he did do.. was Authoritarian.
     
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    Some people are trying to make this thread about Trump.

    I think you've all been conditioned and programmed to resort to the default "blame Trump" on any issue where something is going bad and you don't know whose fault it is or what to do.
     
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    Yes...since those unmotivated, 19 yr old appetizers Botox shrimp sent in are getting ground up in the Ukranian meat grinder....I've seen numèrous vids now of these "kids" being captured as POWs....scared $hitless asking to call their mothers, but can't since their CO'S took their phones away so they wouldn't text where they were sent.....LOL.:))
     
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    Why would I tell them such made up nonsense ? Just because Putin is an Authoritarian nut job like Biden does not make Putin right. What kind of nonsense logic is this ?

    String em both up .. side by side would be good ..
     
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    Talking about Biden duuuuuuoooooooppphhhhh :)
     
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    You are deflecting away from the original post of mine that you quote. You still have not addressed my original post you edited in it's full context. All Trump did was undermine NATO, and the other NATO nations are still following the exact payment schedule set out by the Obama Admin that Trump tried to take credit for.
     
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    Oh? And how exactly did he do that? Because apparently we're not talking about money?
     
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    Simply false.

    By whom?
     
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    What silliness!

    You don't know what you are talking about. You haven't substantiated anything and you're just flapping your lips and making things up as you go along. :blownose:
     
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    You are right. There are a few dum-dums who don't seem to know it.


    This has been extensively discussed in the Economics & Trade section of this forum over and over again.
    You can't get anything for free.
    If you spend money one place, you can't spend it somewhere else. If you promise people money and then don't pay them, it will have future consequences. If you just print money, it will result in inflation.
    You ask "by whom?" The answer is by people. Those pesky old people aren't going to like the government not giving that money that they were promised, with government bonds making up a large fraction of their pension.
     
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    And why would America be unable to service its debt?
     
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    The above post is projection. You still haven't discredited my first post you quoted, just merely weak ad hominem attempts.
     
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    Sorry, I don't understand the issue you are trying to bring up.
    I'm not going to waste the effort trying to give an answer to you unless you are much more precise at what you are trying to get at.

    I don't even know whether you are just a stupid person I am arguing with. So you are going to have to be more precise and make your point clear if you want to discuss this with me.
     
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