FOX anchor! Girls who get FRAT rapes, "What are boys supposed to do?"

Well, all the justice and punishment in the world upon the perpetrator won't undo a rape. So the thing for a victim as well as other women to learn from this is to not do anything that might precipitate getting raped or even worse, killed. For instance, don't get drunk at frat parties. Better yet, don't drink or use drugs of any kind. And don't hang out with people who do. Same thing goes for guys.

 

I'm not blaming the victim for being raped. But her drunkenness precipitated the crime. And if she hadn't done such a foolish thing, she wouldn't have gotten raped. I'm saying, that from now on, all women need to conduct themselves in a fashion that doesn't lend itself to being victimized. And btw, it's not normal for a woman to get falling down drunk at a party of unknown male strangers. It's reckless. Were she my daughter I'd probably murder the guy or guys with my bare hands. But I would still be angry at her for her irresponsible conduct which precipitated the crime. Otherwise it wouldn't have happened.

 

women getting so drunk they lose all inhabitations, control and rational thought and then regretting their actions the next morning doesn't constitute rape and that is what many of these so called rapes are

 

Did you miss the concepts, as usual? In Nature, being strong does not enable an individual to act against the best interests of the herd, no matter how many times you repeat the same flawed sociopathic nonsense.

 

he's certainly not supposed to rape her

 

Hang on a second... If someone decides to steal from your home, is it your fault because you left the curtains open and they were able to see your valuables inside - or is it their fault because they made the decision to do something illegal?

Committing a crime is the fault of the criminal, no matter how easy the crime was to commit.
It never ceases to amaze me how conservatives can whine about "personal responsibility" one moment, then blame victims for the decisions of criminals the next... once again illustrating that hypocrisy is a conservative trait.

 

I guess it depends on how much you value your virtue. You can blame and punish the perp forever, but it wont get you unraped. At some point you'll bonk yourself in the head and ask yourself, why did I get so drunk?.....and if I hadn't, this wouldn't have happened to me.

 

What if, the guy(s) that did her the most have to put out a relationship with her for a specified amount of time and she can insist they have to like her better after they "sleep" together?

 

So, if someone is the victim of another crime - like someone robbing their home - I suppose you believe it's reasonable to blame the victim for not valuing their property enough to take adequate preventative measures? I mean, blaming the criminal won't get them unrobbed, right? At some point the homeowner has to "bonk themselves in the head" and ask themselves why they didn't draw the curtains to prevent robbers from seeing their stuff, buy a guard dog, invest in a domestic alarm system, etc... If they had, they might not have been robbed.

The individual responsible for committing a criminal act is the criminal. It is the criminal's decision. A drunk girl may be an easier target, but that doesn't change the fact that the rapist is solely responsible for making the decision to rape.

 

Boy are you thick. Okay fine, tell your daughter that it's okay and that she has a right to get falling down drunk around a bunch of strange guys. Then if she gets raped, you can blame the rapist for your own consolation because you're the one who handed your daughter to him on a platter. What a strange play of vanity and self indulgence you weave. But please don't pretend to care about her sullied virtue. Just fry the fish and dangle the bait for another. sheesh

 

I see it's ok to use my hypothetical daughter's rape as a talking point... that sounds like an appeal to emotion fallacy to me, but I'm happy to play by your rules:
Ok, let's try another hypothetical example... Let's imagine - hypothetically - that you were an idiot that made it a point to be as rude as possible to anyone who didn't agree with you. In this reality, it might be assumed that you'd be an attractive target for some form of criminal act, such as assault. However, no matter how tempting it might be, the person committing the assault is responsible for his own actions.

Sure, it would have been smarter for you (in this hypothetical example) to simply be a civil human being rather than tempting people to assault you - but placing a significant portion of the blame on you for someone else's lack of self control wouldn't solve the real issue, since the real issue is the attacker's lack of self control.

Now, what level of blame should be placed on women who have only had one drink? What about those who have had two? How much additional blame does someone get depending on what they were wearing? What if they danced, does that make it more their fault? Perhaps they "flirted", would that make it their fault too?

On a side note, please illustrate how those who panicked about impending Sharia law are not made hypocritical in this scenario.

 

Did you increase the risk of being robbed by leaving the lights on the door unlocked and a sign stating you were not at home sticking in the front yard.

Why do you and other conflate, increasing risk with being at fault?

 

If I go to the bar and get rip roaring drunk and then walk home down a dark alley staggering and not in control of my faculties with money hanging out my pocket and I get robbed, had I increased the risk of getting robbed by my own actions?

 

Yes but there does not seem to be an automatic response of "They must have deserved it" when you hear of back street robberies. There is no victim blame game

But there is when a woman is raped

 

Sure, you increase the opportunity, but this only becomes risk when someone is a rapist.

Can you seriously view the OP and claim the "news" story was not placing blame?

 

act like human being and not rape a drunk girl.

 

What if they post a disclaimer? That way, women will know in advance if they want to take that lifestyle "risk".

 

You mean what if certain guys had to wear tshirts that say "Warning: I will rape you if I get the chance"?
Great idea, I suggest you hold your breath until that policy is effectively implemented.

 

What if they ask for volunteers who like a lot of sex? You know, like women who complain they aren't getting used enough or not meeting their quota often enough, even if they don't work in sales.

 

Or we could just expect guys to behave like a functional part of society... That should be a bit more realistic than expecting women to volunteer as sex objects for losers lacking the social skills required to otherwise find a willing partner.

 

Yes the risk of harm coming to you. Isn't it wise to advise people especially young people not to do things that do that?

Yes how can you not? It's about teaching our children who turn into young adults how your behaviors can put you at risk of harm.

 

It's entirely different to teach young people about avoiding unnecessary risk and to blame victims for the crimes committed against them.
Why don't conservatives place this type of blame on victims when discussing muggings, robberies, scam artists, hit & run drivers, or any other crimes with victims?

 

What behaviors? Being young and looking pretty? Because THAT is a greater risk than being old ugly and drunk

 

There really is not statistic on date rapes, however, there are statistics on overall rape.

Here are the statistics.


If you look at the stats, look at two categories: Rape by a friend or an acquaintance and rape at a party. Rapes by a friend or an acquaintance is about 36% of all reported rapes. Rapes at a party is 7%. In both of these categories, "spiking the drinks" may be used, but it is not reported in any rape stat that I know of. However, it does happen, mainly at parties or by friends or acquaintances.

What is interesting about the statistics are the following"
1. United States is in the top 5 of countries with the most rapes
2. Most rapes are never reported.
3. This is especially true at college
4. Nearly half of all rapes occurred where both the victim and the perp had been drinking
5. There are men who report rape on themselves.

 

You say that; but, when have you advocated morals tests to eradicate the abomination of hypocrisy gene, from the pool?