FOX news is manipulating you!

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  1. Anders Hoveland

    Anders Hoveland Banned

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    I hope you realise that FOX news in the USA is just deceptive propaganda perpetrated by business interests to manipulate the populist conservatives.
    FOX news actually expounds [and revolves around] economic liberalism, which should not be confused with the "liberal" ideology on the left. FOX news just feeds their conservative viewers enough little bites of truth to keep them watching.

    But in fact, FOX news is far more damaging to the real interests of the populist conservatives than CNBC could ever be.

    The big question is why the media is so silent about the important issues, while turning peoples brains into mush discussing the latest petty sex scandals. What else have they not informed us about?

    Tell people to stop watching the trashy televised news. Do you really think "Fox" is independant and on your side? They are run by the GOP and owned behind the scenes by liberals (and quite literally jews and muslims)
    http://bigthink.com/ideas/22891
    http://www.turnoffyourtv.com/networks/foxnews/foxnews.html

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0K2pLo8JV5Y"]Murdoch of Fox News Admits Manipulating the News for Agenda - YouTube[/ame]
    (News Corp is the holding company for Fox News)

    In the USA, the "liberal" and "conservative" parties are an illusion. As long as people think they are fighting, they will never notice that both the conservative and liberal media is owned by the same corporations. People will vote for whoever the media tells them to vote for- the only choice is which candidate the media has pre-selected for them, the "democrat" or the "republican". Listen to what the western media says about the sham of Russian democracy; the russian media tells their people the same thing about America. The two countries are no different.

    The reason for Fox News is so that those who are actually in power can control any opposition, and discredit it. What better way to maintain power than to control both the conservative and liberal media, then get people outraged at issues that do not really matter to distract them from the real issues? Notice how they seem to be getting either political side to fight against eachother, rather than discussing the key problems with America. By creating the pretense of a "conservative" media, they are simply misleading the viewers into ignorance and stupidity. Better a laughable ignorant racist than someone with a well-informed economic/racial ideology! They want racism in so far as to keep their minority slave laborers in check, but neither do they want white nationalists cutting off their supply of cheap labor from the third world, which has undermined the standard of living for the average american over the last four decades.
     
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    PatrickT Well-Known Member

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    Unlike NPR, MSNBC, CNN, Reuters, ABC, CBS, NYT, and so forth and so on.
     
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    I get so much of my news from the internet and by the time a story is on Fox, I've read it. They just report the news that's already out there, unless it's breaking news. I find that useful.

    They also have on - regularly - a host of experts and analysts.

    I am not brainwashed by them. I'm way too well informed for that possiblilty. I eat, sleep, and breathe politics all the time, except when I'm asleep.

    So don't worry about me, I'll be fine.
    I'm not unusual. There are many like me. We are the informed and the analytical.
    We THINK.
     
  4. jackson33

    jackson33 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Anders; Unless I'm reading your rant incorrectly, your saying Fox News, probably Newscorp as a whole and Rupert Murdock are behind the current movement to maintain a Free Market Capitalist Economy, maintaining the rights of States/Individuals, following the US Constitution, with emphasis on adherence to intended limited purpose or in short opposition to Socialism, Social Justice according to one mind and an all powerful Executive Branch. If correct my hat off to your opposition and my hat off to Fox News....

    On what I placed in bold print, your post; Fox News, I believe is 15 years old and had not become the highest rated Cable News/Commentary outlet until about 8 years ago. Apparently they have something going for themselves, the many other older outlets don't....Anyway how any entity, other than Government, can influence your "standard of living" is beyond my comprehension.
     
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    Not only Fox, but so is the Hypnotoad on MSNBC:

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    All corporate owned media is part of the misinformation propaganda machine.
     
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    This topic starter is......
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    Media is all about lying and manipulation.
     
  8. Anders Hoveland

    Anders Hoveland Banned

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    What you fail to realise is that these are not the real issues. The media tells people what to care about, artificially creates a distracting conflict. The real issue is wages, taxes, and government spending. EVERYTHING else is essentially meaningless in comparison. They are not motivated by ideology, just whatever benefits them the most and makes the most profit. They do not really care about the "free market". If they did they would not be trying so hard to create "assets" out of special government privilleges. Their lobbyists have turned pollution credits, radiofrquencies, and mining allowances on government land into more artificial assets to enrich the business interests. Select businesses are granted lucrative monopolies, given special privilleges by the government- certain banks, casinos, electric power, and communication companies. "Free Market" is a joke.
     
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    jackson33 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Anders, I've heard about the "dumming down" of America for the past 40 years, agree we're no longer educating kids for the real world, but not everyone attends Public Schools. If everything is as corrupt as you seem to think it is, then it's too late amyway, but I prefer to feel otherwise. People that even get their news from TV, pick their source and the source makes a concentrated effort to get that audience.....

    I do agree Government Spending is a major issue, but taxes fit into that equation, then wages are frankly not Governments business and I have no idea what your news source is, but these issues are mentioned many times on Fox, each day....

    Cronyism has become a problem in Politics and Lobbyist do have some guilt to explain, but remember business or those representing people/business can only finance those operations with support from the consumer. Most legitimate subsidies can and do result in lower prices, (some cost not passed on to the consumer) and many Organizational Lobbyist (AARP and the like) speak for large numbers of people.

    It's hard to defend we have a "Free Market" with all the regulations involved, but anybody can still try to build a business and as of today (may soon change) you can buy pretty much only what you want to, from a large selection of sources.
     
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    Oh no, those evil jews.
     
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    I stopped reading when I came to that racial prejudiced BS.

    Rev A
     
  12. protectionist

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    To blame white nationalists (a racist statement in itself) for illegal immigration and all its ill effects is absurd. Although some of the blame goes to big business, and a few of their Republican mouthpieces, far more Republicans and Fox News commentators oppose illegal immigration than do Democrats and spokesmen on MSNBC. I see very few Democrats opposing any immigration legal or illegal. In fact, there's even an often-shown TV commercial narrated by Lawrence O'Donnell praising immigration as if it was a good thing - at a time when we have 14 million (govt figure) Americans UNEMPLOYED.
     
  13. Anders Hoveland

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    Many, perhaps even MOST (but certainly not all), american Republican politicians merely said they "oppossed illegal immigration". In actuality they did little to nothing to stop it. Indeed, they even seemed to encourage it by intentionally underfunding enforcement and unwritten policies. One effective way to reduce undocumented workers would have been to direct the enforcement agency to persue policies that would deny the employer the ability to have workers deported if they unionized. This in no way would have compromised the ability of the immigration enforcement to do its job. Immigration enforcement was used more as a tool to threaten undocumented workers from organizing than as a legitimate means to deport illegals. Virtually no illegals were being arrested and deported, so what would be the harm in not going after long-time illegal workers that eventuallyorganised for higher wages and better working conditions, when it is suspected that the employer gave the information?

    Have you noticed that FOX news only discusses illegals themselves, and never mentions the cost to the country from all the children the illegals have been having? The real problem is all the offspring, yet this seems to be taboo. Not that the USA should be going after the offspring, but it should be a very important consideration into the enforcement of immigration law. There is a reason Lou Dobbs resigned (was "encouraged" to leave) FOX news. FOX news will only allow certain things to be discussed. The station will only allow so much truth to be broadcast. Here is a rare segment from the station that actually touches upon the real problem:
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjXzDdSR5gc"]Lou Dobbs: Workers Sue Company For Hiring Illegal Aliens - YouTube[/ame]

    All good propaganda mixes in bits of truth so the lies will be more palatable.
     
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    As for Republicans did nothing to stop it :

    The DREAM Act has been supported by Democrats in Congress, opposed by Republicans. If you look at a list of who voted for to the LEAVE Act (the Loophole Elimination and Verification Enforcement (LEAVE) Act, H.R. 1196), a comprehensive immigration enforcement bill that would require the use of E-Verify for all employers nationwide, end the practice of birthright citizenship, prohibit states from granting in-state tuition benefits to illegal aliens, increase the number of border patrol and immigration and customs enforcement agents, and assist local municipalities in the enforcement of federal immigration laws, among other things, you'll find an overwhelming majority of Republican voted for it. Almost no Democrats did.

    Also the bill was sponsored by a Republican, Gary Miller of California, and co-sponsored by 7 congressmen - ALL Republicans.

    Also, I've heard about abolishing birthright citizenship on Fox News plenty of times spoken by both show hosts and guests, as well as the use of false IDs and the anchor baby racket that illegals use to get US welfare $$$$$$$.

    And I don't know why you are talking about unionizing illegal aliens. Unionizing ? The should be arrested for entering the country illegally, and jailed. They should be deported after serving their jail sentences. Likewise their employers should be arrested and jailed if it can be shown that they knowingly hired the illegals.

    As for the ludicrous term "undocumented workers", to call an illegal alien an "undocumented worker", is about the equivalent of calling a bank robber an "informal withdrawl agent". LOL.
     
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    The bill is currently bogged down, as it has been referred to the "Subcommittee on Immigration Policy and Enforcement". Gary Miller was directly informed about the specific immigration problem a year prior. Not sure why it took him so long.

    It seems to me that it has been all talk and no real action from most of the Republican politicians. I hope the LEAVE act was not just so they could claim to be trying to do something about the problem just to get votes. One wonders about their real motivations, and real views. They know most of their voters want to see something done about the problem, but many of the politicians themselves are more affiliated with economic liberalism and business interests. Gary Miller himself ran a construction company that no doubt utilized undocumented workers. This says more about the local business and political environment in Southern California than about him. Many businesses simply cannot compete for contracts without using illegal labor. Even most of the cities in his district hire subcontractors that hire illegal workers.
     
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    One more time > to call an illegal alien an "undocumented worker", is about the equivalent of calling a bank robber an "informal withdrawl agent".

    In general, Fox News does have a pro-business attitude, but it's not always that way. Recently, one of Fox News medical doctor contributors suggested that men using Avodart for enlarged prostate, stop using the drug due to some studies linking it to cancer. The doctor could have taken the side of big Pharma, and gave Avodart a pass. He didn't.
     
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    Fox may be a little but better at it, but almost every major news source in America is deceptive in some way or another. Why do you think Americans generally never question foreign policy or the continuity of governments? American media is dominated by a propaganda system. The worst thing is that, particularly in the case of Fox in my experience, many viewers EMBRACE this bias. That is truly alarming.
     
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    Got any specific examples of Fox News bias ? Just curious.
     
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    I recall a study that showed Fox news viewers were, on the subject of the war on terror, especially about the relationship of Saddam with the 9/11 terrorists(which was non-existent) Fox news viewers were most badly informed.

    Here it is:
    http://65.109.167.118/pipa/pdf/oct03/IraqMedia_Oct03_rpt.pdf
    http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/p...security_bt/102.php?nid=&id=&pnt=102&lb=brusc

    More generally:

    "A new study by the Pew Research Study shows that viewers of the Daily Show and the Colbert Report have the highest knowledge of national and international affairs, while Fox News viewers rank nearly dead last."
    http://thinkprogress.org/default/2007/04/16/11946/daily-show-fox-knowledge/
    http://slatest.slate.com/posts/2011...wers_less_informed_on_major_news_stories.html
     
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    Obviously the OP doesn't watch Fox News.
     
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    What do ya mean?
     
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    I mean that if he actually watched Fox News he would know that there is no manipulation going on. Opinions, yes. Manipulation, no.
     
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    I rarely watch Fox, but when I have I discovered them to be significantly more fair and balanced than the purchased alphabet news.

    They slant right, no doubt about it. The others are so blatantly, and of late, radically left, that they have no credilbility whatsoever.

    See Trinnitys post. Ditto that for me.
     
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    It is curious that Fox goes out of its way to have people that represent both sides of a debate while the competition gives it their way only. I suspect that is a major reason it is the most watched cable new channel.

    I don't understand the fear of opinions. Opinions are what they are. No need to fear them.
     
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    And where on the internet do you receive your information from?
     

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