French clergy sexually abused over 200,000 children since 1950, report finds

So if this POS clergy is a child rapist, then anyone who believes in faith is of the same caliber. You're just going to convolute the two? Don't think you will have much luck with that accusation.

Would that mean if Cuomo is a womanizer than anyone who votes Democrat has no right to preach to Republicans about respecting women?

 

It's maybe a lot to condemn religions as a whole, but without a doubt catholic (french) church failed there as an institution. And there was also a lot of abuse of the catholic church in other countries, in Ireland for instance. So the catholic church would have to work, very, very hard if they want to find any kind of trust there.
Among young french people, catholicism end to be a very small minority, and that minority tend to be real hard liners.

Considering the only other major religion in France is Islam, that has brought more than enough misery on this country, I let you guess that religion in a general manner tend to be harshly considered.

I know that madness, hatred isn't specific to religion. But I'm starting to be bored of those madmen pretending "god want this and god want that". Right now in France, beyond that news, we have also the trial of people who were involved in the slaughters that happened 6 years ago. And I was just reading about Bartholomew's day, one of the worst slaughters that happened in France (celebrated by the pope of this time), just seeing one of my elderly relative being a broken, miserable as he was severely abused by nuns in his childhood, and old age doesn't help, the little abused kid is just becoming more appearant as he is more vulnerable, just hearing salafists justificating slavery because their prophet practicing it, I'm really tired of this lunacy.

I know that religion can be something else than that, something better, something more beautifull, however the worst of its aspects start getting really heavy on my nerves.

 

I don't know the truth or not of this study but I do think we should hold at least a little skepticism......

 

Pedophilia is not a crime. Molesting underage people is.

 

I specifically said ‘organized religion’ — ie the places that continue to not only allow this but protect it from the laws of their host nation.
I said nothing about individual faith

You are correct, I would not have much luck with that accusation, thankfully that’s not what I said and people with basic reading comprehension can see that

 

No, you didn't say anything about individual faith. You accused every one of them.

 

Are we really doing this today? Please note the word funding…
Since you’ve taken such issue with it, who do you believe funds the Catholic Church?

 

(I'm french) You have to get the cultural context : the country has been shaken by multiple cases of pedophilic priests for decades. Many times bishops, and even an archi bishop have been sentenced as accomplice, because they just moved away the priest while knowing what what happening. We got multiple cases of pedophilia by priests for decades. The fact there was a problem catholic church and pedophilia is known for a long time, the link between pedophilia and catholic priests a matter of jokes for decades also. I'm in my early thirties, and I always remembered that there was periodically scandals of pedophilia.
I don't think there is a lot of people in France really who doubt of that, even less that are surprized.

So we're not speaking of something that get out of nowhere, quite the opposite. Everybody knew there was a problem, we just got the measure of the disaster.

 

Lets not start off pretending I am the only one asking you questions about your statement.
The people in its community primarily fund their churches. Tithing is part of most faith based beliefs. It doesn't make the person paying tithes knowingly promoting child rape. Most of which is primarily in faiths requiring its staff take an oath of celibacy. I don't think it comes close to organized religion being a plague upon the earth.
There are going to be bad people in every walk of life but I would be remise in not stating the good provisions of organizations like Christianity.
I just think you went a bit too far in rounding up everyone of faith.

 

I don't believe I said it was.

 

Oh, OK, sorry. I read that as implied, my mistake.

 

It doesn’t matter how many are questioning anything — I have my words to stand on their own.

We disagree then

Again, I didn’t round up people of faith — I said their donations allow this entity to exist and do what it is doing.

Nothing more, nothing less. That these same people are funding child rape they are demanding they be in control of others lives. Wouldn’t you argue they need to clean up their own house before they worry about others?

 

By that train of thought, all Democrats are responsible for the deaths of 13 service members in Afghanistan. They are also responsible for the border crisis, inflation, and anything else Biden does.
Is this where you're really going?

 

Desperate reach.
The deaths were done by terrorists not on purpose by Biden — hiding child molesters were

The border crisis has so many reasons it isn’t funny such as poverty, Mexico not preventing it, poor immigration policy and the failed drug war. Blaming that on one man or even one party is a failure of basic reasoning

Inflation is part of a growing economy and/or poor fiscal policy such as QE and lax monetary policy during periods of calm

If you believe this is one party then you are not paying attention.

It would be accurate to say Americans funded these policies however.

That you compare any of the above to rape of 200 thousand children or that the church actively worked to hide and prevent justice for this crimes is beyond disgusting.

 

I haven't been religious in a very long time, well over a decade at this point.

Yet this report is nonsense, their methods for determining this completely ridiculous yet that didnt' stop them from making such a claim.

 

Its not a desperate reach at all, by your own logic dems are responsible for everything he mentioned. Its literally the same lol.

Your hatred doesn't do you any good in debates, it is making you cling to fallacious arguments.

 

I wasn't comparing anything. I was showing the ridiculousness of claiming people who pay tithes are funding child rape.