French Holocaust denier Robert Faurisson dies at 89

At ten years old I had no attitude, and no one of the adults knew anything! I surely would have heard about it, as I was always present at mealtime when my parents had conversations. We weren't told or lectured in school either. It seems to me that the so called "holocaust" only surfaced in the 60. By that time I had already left Germany.
Check here:

Now you know why my family and I new nothing of the holo after the war!

http://muse.jhu.edu/article/43122

 

This should be the thread where we CELEBRATE the death of this vile holocauster denier. We shouldn't be agreeing with him or considering the truth of his denial.

 

Der Spiegel is a Jewish rag! That should tell you something!

 

Are you just coming straight out and saying your motivation is antisemitism?

 

Well now it clearly is obvious that you are telling porkies. I was told about it in 53.

 

You've got it in for me, haven't you? Putting words into my mouth and labeling me! Dear Alexa, you are becoming obnoxious and too focused on me. Perhaps I should put you on ignore for a week?

 

So what? That is proof for you that I am telling "porkies"? Not that I even know what porkies means, never heard it before.
Now, go and sit in the corner for awhile!!

 

You had no attitude at ten? How many years had you been in the hitler youth by that age?

Discussing rumors of enslaving and murdering jews and roms and gays and the mentally challenged was not something responsible parents did in front of their children at dinner.

Lectured in school? Do murderers usually admit to their crimes while they are actively engaged in them?

As for the term Holocaust - you are correct, the deliberate mass murder of jews and the theft of their property was at times referred to as a holocaust but didn't assume the label of "THE Holocaust" until the 60's.

 

I am only answering your post. Trust me you have minimal interest for me. So your post was

As you can see you tell me that should tell me something. Clearly you claiming Der Spiegel is a Jewish rag with the inference that you believe it is crap because of that and telling me that should tell me something, I gave the obvious answer. You are becoming tiresome in your egotisim at being a nazi lover.

 

Oh I didn't realise Jazz was trying to be clever. I was speaking about what happened.

 

Why don't you join Alexa for a week?

 

a telling demonstration, yet more confirmation of my opinion of deniers.

 

Just to show how desperate the holocaust pushers were:

Torture and Testicle Crushing at Nuremberg
Confessions at Nuremberg were obtained under torture. The grimmest of these tortures, practiced mostly by Jewish operatives on their German prisoners of war, was testicle crushing.

Apparently, as many as three out of four interrogators at Nuremberg had been Jewish—and these Jewish interrogators had been by far the most sanguinary and sadistic. There was almost no level of human depravity to which these monsters were not willing to sink, including forcing their German victims to eat excrement and to have sex with disinterred corpses.

Following reports that defendants were tortured at the Malmedy massacre trial, the US Army formed the “Simpson Commission” to investigate the alleged misconduct.
Judge Edward L. Van Roden was part of this commission. According to Van Roden’s book, American Atrocities in Germany, out of 139 cases of treatment of alleged German “war criminals” who were investigated by the commission—and who were subsequently put on trial by the American Military Tribunal in Dachau after World War II—”137 of these Germans were tortured by having their testicles crushed.”

Without these confessions, obtained under extreme torture, there is no solid proof that any Jewish Holocaust took place at all. There is only legend, hearsay and “eyewitness accounts” : like those of Elie Wiesel and his kind—accounts that have turned out, in retrospect, to be based on pure fantasy, fiction, and grotesque exaggeration.


“The Holocaust legend is built on ‘confessions’ obtained by the use of torture.”

https://www.darkmoon.me/2015/torture-and-testicle-crushing-at-nuremberg/
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And yet, we are expected to believe what the Jews, Americans, British and Russians tell us how it really was! I find that very hard! I have always had the image of a benevolent, kind and caring Fuehrer. He himself said, he didn't want that war. I believe he was too decent, too honest and upright, so those shrewd Gauners pulled the wool over him. From what I read, Roosevelt was the main war driver. He went so far as tricking Japan to attack in Pearl Harbor, so he had a reason to get into the war.
Wherever you look, there were the Jews in decisive positions to hiss the countries against each other, financing all sides and making lots of money. Germany is still paying for being dutifully sorry, the Americans are paying for being eternally thankful.
Looking back at my life, I have lived through some turbulent times, yet... always protected by angels!

 

Hard to believe what is going on in Germany!!!

The Crucifixion of Monika and Alfred Schaefer Continues

According to the Holocaust establishment, it is an unpardonable sin to even have an opposing opinion on things that matter.
You cannot ask for a rational discussion at all.
You have to suppress your thoughts and feelings about historical issues such as the events revolving around Nazi Germany.

The time will come when the Holocaust will at last be viewed for what it really is:
an ideology that seeks to subvert the pillars of Western Civilization.

Shocking!!

https://www.veteranstoday.com/2018/...xion-of-monika-and-alfred-schaefer-continues/
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Both, brother and sister face jail time.
Read about their "crimes!"

 

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Yes, I'm familiar with your long running white hot hatred for facts that refute the standard holocaust lore with which you have been so thoroughly indoctrinated to the detriment of your ability to view this one of many mass atrocities calmly rationally & objectively.

In your fervor to revile anyone and everyone who views with honest skepticism a narrative initiated by charlatan hucksters peddling stories of shrunken, heads, human skin "lampshades", human "soap", bone grinding machines etc, you have felt compelled to fabricate a troglodytic straw men who are "fascists", "Jew haters", "commies" etc as if the WW2 era European holocaust was exclusively about "the Jews" and to question any facet of it is to "hate Jews".

The fact remains that the standard holocaust narrative does have fraudulent hucksterism as its foundation as the earlier shrunken heads, "human skin lampshades, "human soap" etc do demonstrate a blatant intent to exaggerate, deceive & defraud by means of deliberately fabricated "evidence" with which MSM was & remains complicit.
Subsequent deliberate attempts to deceive via fake & altered photos, forged documents, fraudulent "survivor" stories abound.

Among the more desperately sought items seized by those eager to launch a fraudulent narrative were "mountains" of original WW2 German stationary, typewriters, authentic stamps etc used to fabricate many of the mythical "documents" & create new ones to authenticate the narrative.

In a more complete viewing of Europe's 20th century history, no one I know disputes the fact that Jews were among the innumerable persecuted targets but like all other groups, they were also among Europe's many feared persecutors(1) as outlined in John Sack's book "An Eye for an Eye" featuring Salomon Morel who ran one of the many post war concentration camps in which millions of innocent non Jewish civilians perished, were executed, raped & starved to death.

Your attempt to obfuscate the fact that 150,000 Jews served in Germany's WW2 military failed to explain why full Jews like Major Leo Skurnic not only rose through the ranks but received Germany's highest military honors if all Jews were rounded up, imprisoned & exterminated in "gas chambers" etc.

Since there were obviously many exceptions to the enforcement of Germany's Race Laws, why should anyone trust the number of exceptions or casualties to a Holocaust Industry that has repeatedly demonstrated a blatant willingness to deceive & defraud not only the world at large but even deserving holocaust survivors?

Briefly put, questioning the narrative produced by an entity that has openly shown intent to deceive, exploit & exaggerate has absolutely nothing to do with Jew hatred or any other evil, disrespectful motive on the part of individuals who do not believe the entire narrative

Finally the topic of this thread is not about the European, WW2 era holocaust or "the Jews". It is concerned with freedom of speech and the right of individuals to discuss history's events without persecution & fear of retaliation. The white hot hatred that clouds your judgement & prevents rational analysis only negates any credibility to which you lay claim.

The Truth welcomes the sunlight of honest examination & open discussion while only a lie requires State protection and dark censorship to survive.





(1) "Stalin's Jews"

"We mustn't forget that some of greatest murderers of modern times were Jewish"
https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html

EXCERPT "And us, the Jews? An Israeli student finishes high school without ever hearing the name "Genrikh Yagoda," the greatest Jewish murderer of the 20th Century, the GPU's deputy commander and the founder and commander of the NKVD. Yagoda diligently implemented Stalin's collectivization orders and is responsible for the deaths of at least 10 million people.

In 1934, according to published statistics, 38.5 percent of those holding the most senior posts in the Soviet security apparatuses were of Jewish origin. They too, of course, were gradually eliminated in the next purges.

Many Jews sold their soul to the devil of the Communist revolution and have blood on their hands for eternity. We'll mention just one more: Leonid Reichman, head of the NKVD's special department and the organization's chief interrogator, who was a particularly cruel sadist."CONTINUED


(2) "Israel protects concentration camp boss"
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/israel-protects-concentration-camp-boss-1194791.html
EXCERPT "AN EXTRADITION request by Polish authorities for an alleged former commander of a Stalinist-era detention camp now living in Tel Aviv has been rejected by Israel.
Salomon Morel is wanted by the prosecutor's office in the southern Polish city of Katowice."CONTINUED

 

Of course you're creating a "straw man opponent" as no one here and very few who question the complete narrative marketed by the ethically challenged, profit driven Holocaust Industry are "Jew haters", "Neo Nazis", "fascists" and/or "commies".

Meanwhile, an over marketed fiction does not make it "centered" as you would like in the world's eye.

According to the ADL, the vast majority of the world DOES NOT believe in your mythical systematic "industrial genocide", "mass gassings" etc(1) and narrow minded, angry & fanatic disciples of your holocaustian cult are in the minority and becoming increasingly fewer as younger generations: "...were much more likely to say they believe that facts about the Holocaust have been distorted”

In other words, Billions of educated & fair minded people around the world do NOT believe your specious holocaust lore about "industrial" mass gassings etc so you'd better get busy in your crusade to curse and abuse people who lack your level of gullibility.





”THE WORLD IS FULL OF HOLOCAUST DENIERS”

https://www.theatlantic.com/interna...he-world-is-full-of-holocaust-deniers/370870/

EXCERPT “This is the most staggering statistic in a new survey by the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) of more than 53,000 people in over 100 countries, conducted by First International Resources.

Only a third of the world's population believe the genocide has been accurately described in historical accounts.

Some said they thought the number of people who died has been exaggerated; others said they believe it's a myth.

Thirty percent of respondents said it's probably true that "Jews still talk too much about what happened to them in the Holocaust."

- Hindus were most likely to believe that the number of Holocaust deaths has been exaggerated.

- people younger than 65 were much more likely to say they believe that facts about the Holocaust have been distorted”CONTINUED

 

Re:

Are you really saying that people should not think for themselves when considering a narrative that is riddled with fraud & relentlessly promoted by a multi billion dollar, profit driven "Holocaust Industry"?


Even 8th Graders are capable of critical literacy:

"SHOCK: District’s ‘critical thinking’ assignment led at least 50 students to conclude Holocaust never occurred"

http://eagnews.org/shock-districts-...tudents-to-conclude-holocaust-never-occurred/

RIALTO, Calif. – An eighth-grade English assignment that was meant to develop students’ critical thinking skills has, instead, created some 50 new Holocaust deniers.

In May, Rialto Unified School District leaders came under intense criticism after it was revealed the district’s roughly 2,000 eighth-grade students were given an in-class essay assignment in which they were asked to consider if the Holocaust was “an actual historical event” or if it might have been “a propaganda tool that was used for political and monetary gain.”

One student declared there was no way the Holocaust occurred because the Nazis “would have had to have killed 187 people an hour in order to kill 6 million people. Therefore it is impossible.”

Another flatly asserted that the Holocaust is “a profitable hoax made by the Jews to obtain land, money and power.”

One student concluded: “With the evidence that was given to me, it clearly was obvious” that the Holocaust never occurred “and I wouldn’t know why anyone would think otherwise.”

Several students based their skepticism on arguments put forth by discredited Holocaust denier Fred A. Leuchter, who has argued the Nazis never used gas chambers to kill Jews.

One student wrote that if the Nazis “would have even experimented these so called gas chambers the Nazis would have died also, so I do not believe in gas chambers.”

Another made a similar argument: “if gassing would have occurred everyone (nearby) would have died, because the floors had cracks in the floor and holes in the wall.”

Still another asserted “there is no significant cyanide traces in any of the alleged gas chambers. So any open minded person can easily be persuaded to believe that the gassings were a Hoax.”

Some students even used the “evidence” provided by their teachers to declare that “The Diary of Anne Frank” – the first-hand account of Nazi atrocities that students had been assigned to read earlier – was a fraud."CONTINUED


I don't know anyone who disputes the fact that Jews were among WW2 innumerable victims of cruelty & persecution from all sides of WW2.

It is an irrefutable fact that certain individuals (founders of what Norman Finkelstein calls The Holocaust Industry) with a clear agenda to exaggerate, deceive & defraud tried to pass off fake human soap, fake human skin lampshades, shrunken heads and other grisly props.
Additionally, countless widely published & believed "eyewitness survivor" accounts have been exposed a crass frauds over the years.

However, to suggest that what has relatively recently been labeled & marketed as THE holocaust is somehow more profound than equally or more numerous horrific mass killings (Holodomor etc) because Jews suffered is a racist affront to the countless non Jewish groups who met equally gruesome ends.

As I noted in an earlier Post, only 1/3 of the world claims to believe the standard holocaust narrative if we are to believe the ADL. That means that billions of educated & fair minded individuals do NOT believe the standard holocaust narrative so Faurisson is far from alone in his educated & widely accepted findings.

 

True to form I see.


5. Sticks and Stones -- If you're being wiped out with evidence and reasoning you cannot refute, you can always take refuge in complaining about the language being used by your adversaries. For example, if they say, "I've already explained that it takes less gas to kill people than lice, and therefore there are fewer cyanide residues remaining on the gas chamber walls than on the delousing chamber walls, you moron," you can respond by complaining about their use of the word "moron." You can actually evade quite a bit of serious discussion by spending a lot of time condescendingly lecturing the newsgroup about their use of trashy language. But this approach doesn't work very well in building credibility. You may view yourself as an arbiter of social discourse but you'll actually come off like a den-mother scurrying around excoriating the little Cub Scouts to behave themselves.

Stalin's jews. Yeah secular jews who were commies and atheists. Or did that little factoid escape you?

Not to mention the "%" is the kind of academic bullshit you guys just love. Seems some clown looked at all the names on the various lists and decided if they were a jew or not based solely on their names!!!

Naturally the jew haters seize on this "evidence" as proof of jew's dastardly intent. Well like I said it doesn't take an intellectual giant to be a denier.

So?

 

Boy you sure do adhere to the playbook, don't you? You aren't fooling anyone except yourself and the other deniers and jew haters around here.

Do you have any substantive evidence to "revise" the main accepted narrative? ANY evidence to refute what Fred Schomel - an SS guard at treblinka had to say?

 

What an absurd brainless response. I don't see why anyone would lower themselves to debate at this level.

 

Fred Schomel... I got to google that.
No such person seems to exist. In the video his name is spelled "Suchomel".

Proof of the Treblinka gas chambers found in the trial testimony of Franz Suchomel, a junior SS guard at the camp

https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/...franz-suchomel-a-junior-ss-guard-at-the-camp/
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How could he have been a junior SS guard when he was born in 1907, being 33 years old in 1940??

 

Of course the Germans thought they would win the war and they could transport the "Jews" back to Khazaria, whence they originally came from.


Netanyahu: Hitler Didn't Want to Exterminate the Jews
Prime minister tells World Zionist Congress that Hitler only wanted to expel the Jews, but Jerusalem's Grand Mufti convinced him to exterminate them, a claim that was rejected by most accepted Holocaust scholars.
Haaretz
Oct 21, 2015 3:25 AM
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Is he joking?
NO, he isn't. Here is another website...

https://www.breitbart.com/national-...made-pact-hitler-encouraged-exterminate-jews/

If Hitler could look now at the situation in the world, how it has turned into the opposite he was striving for, I think he would be pleased and relieved that the world cannot blame him for the extermination of the Jewish race.

 

Europe's War On Free Speech Continues
Published: October 28, 2018

A European court has ruled that people can be fined and prosecuted in criminal court for saying things about religious figures. Specifically, saying things about the Muslim prophet Mohammad is verboten, and state punishment is appropriate:

The European Court of Human Rights has ruled a woman, convicted by an Austrian court of calling the Prophet Mohammed a paedophile, did not have her freedom of speech rights infringed.

The woman, named only as Mrs. S, 47, from Vienna, was said to have held two seminars in which she discussed the marriage between the Prophet Mohammad and a six-year old girl, Aisha....
Mrs S. was later convicted in February 2011 by the Vienna Regional Criminal Court for disparaging religious doctrines and ordered her to pay a fine of 480 euros plus legal fees.

The court's primary reasoning, it appears, is that the woman's comments ought to be condemned because they might "stir up prejudice and threaten religious peace..."

Notably, however, Mrs. S is not accused of saying anything that encourages violence, either generally or in any specific way.

Read here:
https://www.blacklistednews.com/article/68996/europes-war-on-free-speech.html
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Dear Friends,

please keep in mind that many disbelievers of the Holocaust narrative with the 6 million murdered Jews have been and still will be penalized with imprisonment e.g. in Austria, Germany and France!
Add Canada to that!!! (The Schaefers)

I say, what is good for the Jews should also be good for the Muslims!
Do you agree?

 

Actually quite serious and entirely accurate.

As to "lowering" oneself, I see you are operating under the presumption that holocaust deniers have a legitimate serious argument of equal merit to the accepted narrative.

The foundation of denalist dispositive "evidence" that mass gassings are a myth and that there was no organized plan of extermination has been TOTALLY debunked and exposed for the fraudulent bullshit it was then and is now.

From the laughably incompetent Leuchter to the seriously offside Rudolph to that idiot Krege the "forensic" evidence is the stuff that only a true brainless idiot or serious hater could accept without question.

I have been combatting scumbag fascist nationalist jew hating holocaust deniers for decades. Way back to the early days of Samizdat.

And for your edification I freely admit my bigotries and guess what? nazis, fascists, white nationalists, jew hating holocaust deniers, racists of all colors, religious fanatics of all flavors, and commies are all on my list.

I abhor all of those ideologies and am prejudiced against those that have chosen to adopt them. I am an honest bigot who has the courage of my convictions, unlike many of my fellow bigots around here.

Cheers.

 

Sorry, senior moment on his name.

Well he was a Unterscharfuhrer (junior squad leader) which was an SS paramilitary rank. He was a squad leader. I guess you haven't ever seen a 30 year old NCO before.

Franz is on video describing exactly how it was done at treblinka and sobibor - both part of Operation Reinhardt.

RIGHT OUT OF THE FRIGGIN' HORSES MOUTH.