French Holocaust denier Robert Faurisson dies at 89

Hello, Grau, have you ever heard of a Polish soldier getting himself arrested and put into the Auschwitz Camp?

Witold Pilecki, before his incarceration.

Witold Pilecki in Auschwitz. (I doubt it is the same guy as above. He surely doesn't look starved. Also. his left eyebrow doesn't correspond with the top picture.)

Pilecki was 40 years old when he voluntarily went in under the alias Tomasz Serafinski. He was a young, well-trained soldier, who participated in the Russo-Polish War of 1919-1920; in September 1939, the beginning of the Second World War, he fought against the Germans under the command of Major Jan Włodarkiewicz. Together with Włodarkiewicz they built a resistance movement – the Polish Secret Army – which expanded rapidly across Poland.


In the summer of 1940, raids began in Warsaw – the Germans used to stop randomly and deport people to Auschwitz, which had just opened. These raids were meant to sow terror and to put together a servile workforce. Major Włodarkiewicz and Pilecki decided to learn more about the camp where two members of their organisation were already interned. They wanted to organise the fight from within, and Pilecki volunteered to do it.

Once he was a prisoner, what did he do exactly?
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His first task was to improve the life conditions of its members. Priorities were for all members of the network to find a job "under one roof", to avoid the harsh climatic conditions, to be under the command of a non-brutal kapo and to be better treated in hospitals by asking civilians to give them drugs and vaccines. Pilecki and his network infiltrated most of the camp’s administrations (you have to bear in mind that the SS used some prisoners as second-in-commands), and succeeded.
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Pilecki was one of the first to talk about the gas chambers in Auschwitz II, in Birkenau. He gave a few details on the crematorium furnaces. He obtained information by commandos who were working at Birkenau, and he had expanded his network to reach the extermination camp.
Pilecki also mentioned the killing of Gypsies: "They were liquidated in the manner of Auschwitz," he wrote – that is to say using Zyklon B gas.
He also mentioned the first test of this gas in September 1941, on hundreds of Soviet prisoners.

Unfortunately, nobody believed him: British officials who read his reports, didn’t believe that gas chambers could exist. Why would the Germans – who shot and starved the Jews on a daily basis – put in all this effort? They thought it was an exaggeration from the Polish government in exile because they were seeking more support from the Anglo-saxon Allies.
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Can we have doubts about the veracity of his writings?
Read much more here, please:
https://www.vice.com/sv/article/mv57ax/witold-pilecki-the-auschwitz-volunteer-interview
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I think it was possible. BUT, if true, then we also have to believe there were gas chambers and gassings.

 

As you are aware, I'm sure, Poland just passed a law forbidding the blaming of Poles or the Polish government for any war crimes against Jews committed during Poland's German occupation & Israel's government is angry with Poland for refusing to atone for any war crimes & pay reparations.
In other words, Poland has every motive to fabricate stories absolving Poles of any responsibility for their mass crimes against Jews & is making a tremendous effort to blame all crimes committed on Polish soil on the Germans.
Briefly put, with the absence of homicidal gas chambers at Auschwitz, I don' believe Pilecki's claims.

Thanks,

 

"HOLO WHOPPERS! BELIVE IT OR NOT"

I hope readers will consider the entire story of Ms. Gena Goldfinger Turgel which reads like many but is a little more outrageous than most. Ms Turgel lived a long & healthy life after:
1. "Surviving" life in 3 work camps
2. Survived the mythical Auschwitz homicidal gas chambers claiming that: " "I just never realized I was in the gas chamber ... it must not have worked."
3. Like about 1/2 Holo-tales, she, too survived experimentations by the ubiquitous & very busy Dr. Mengele.
4. Ms. Turgel claims that crying was punishable by death: “To cry in Auschwitz could have you shot," she said.
5. Just happened to bump into the sickly Anne Frank during her adventures.
6. Finally, like many spectacular Holo-tales, she marries one of the liberating British prison guards.

The article explains: "Turgel, an elegant woman with more than a hint of mischief in her blue eyes, survived not one or two, but three Nazi concentration camps."

Could that "hint of mischief" include the propensity to exaggerate her Holo-story just a bit for gullible individuals who rely on these stories as support of the standard holocaust narrative?

Please think for yourself.

What's your opinion of Ms. Turgel's spectacular, star studded adventures in Holo-land?

"Auschwitz Survivor Gena Turgel Walked Out of Gas Chamber Alive"
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/...a-turgel-walked-out-gas-chamber-alive-n293496

 

I think, it probably was a failed gassing and the guards let everybody go home again... to their barracks. She wasn't the only one, just the only one able to later tell about it.

 

I hadn't thought of the great number of failed gassings that seem to explain the large number of holocaust survivors, today.
At least she got to keep her appointment with Dr. Mengele in order to have dinner with Anne Frank.

 

Have you read about Groening's trial? You can read about it here:
https://thesixmillionfactorfiction.blogspot.com/2018/01/appendix-2-oskar-groening-i-saw-gas.html

He was asked: “Could you imagine at the time that the Jews ever could get out alive from the camp and could have descendants?”
Groening hesitated for a long time, and then conferred with his lawyers. Then [he said]: “Now I have unfortunately forgotten your question.”

... happens to me all the time!

 

I read the article you cited and it's quite obvious that Groening is confused between what his script says, what he really remembers and what really happened.

If the topic were not so somber & grisly, his testimony that corpses get erections during cremation would be just another laughable "Holo-Tale". I assume that he meant only male corpses but with "Holo-Tales", you never know.
Since devout holocaustians believe everything in holocaust lore, I wonder how many holocaustians will throw out their Viagra & set fire to their little toe with the hope of curing their E.D.?

For some more outrageous holocaust stories, please see:

“Most Outrageous Tales of the Holocaust”
http://balder.org/judea/The-Most-Fan...e-Miracles.php

EXCERPTS:
• Moshe Peer's astounding Holy Shoah tale - Gassed six times by the Nazis and survived!! - Claims people were murdered in gas chambers at Bergen-Belsen

• William Lowenberg's astounding Holocaust tale - Had a magic thirst-quenching pebble, did not drink water, survived on his saliva for 3 years

• Yankel Wiernik's Holotale - Babies torn in half, woman leaps 10 ft barbed-wire fence, guards nail inmates' ears to walls, jews roasted on giant outdoor hibachis

• Testimony from the Eichmann Trial by Leon Wells - Dug up and burned bodies, used bone-grinding machine, ate lunch on top of corpses

• Irene Zisblatt's incredible Holocaust tale- Ate and retrieved diamonds from feces, had 2 post-sterilization children, weighed 40 lbs when liberated

• Rivka Yosselevska's absurd Holocaust fable - Escaped biting jew corpses, witnessed geysers of blood” CONTINUED

 

sorry, this was double!

 

His brain/memory must have been a jungle at age 96. IF I ever make it that far, I'll let you know what it is like!!

You are mean and disgusting, Grau! It is embarrassing to even mention these things, but since you started it, I dare say, it could be very much possible. In their "Todesangst" they could have had involuntary erections. I've seen it with an animal.

The human beast is quite capable of the most gruesome infliction on another human being he hates with a passion, or in a lot of cases, just for the fun of it. I have read what some of the partisans did to captured or wounded German soldiers. Our soldiers feared the ruthless partisans, riled up against the Germans by the Russian Commissars. That is why they often burned down a whole village to smoke out the partisans who were hiding among the civilians.
A few years ago I met a German fellow whose uncle was nailed alive upside down to a barn door and tortured in a way you can imagine yourself. This happened right around the end of the war in Sudeten-Germany.

You already said it once before, dear Grau... some of the inmates were so feverish they fantasized and couldn't tell reality from fantasy.

 

Hmm... I didn't know about the Polish law. I think it is a good one. Next, Germany should enact the same law. There has to be a stop to this insanity of blaming everybody except the Jews. There is no justice or fairness. I faintly remember there was a certain very cruel Jew in Poland who tortured thousands of German civilians and also some German POWs. Was Morell his name? He is apparently hiding, if he is still alive, in Israel, a save haven for Jewish criminals.
Therefore, if justice is so lopsided, then you might as well let everybody off the hook. And, for the hundredth time, may I remind the Americans of their Rhine Meadow massacre crime they have not yet atoned for? 1.7 MILLION!
Not to mention the Russians!!! They literally got away with murder!!
http://library.flawlesslogic.com/crucify.htm

 

Re:

I believe you're thinking of Salomon Morel and are right in that he was one of the century's most brutal sadists.
He is among the Jewish monsters who tortured & executed thousands of innocent German civilians, POWs etc and safely resided in Israel after the war along with other Jewish war criminals until his death in 2007.

Yes, you're right that justice is, indeed, "lopsided" when courageous people like Faurisson & Haverbeck are imprisoned for free speech but mass murdering butchers live long, full lives as "heroes".



"Shlomo Morel: Poland’s Mass Murderer"
https://zionistnarrative.wordpress.com/2018/01/01/shlomo-morel-polands-mass-murderer/
EXCERPTS: "Salomon Morel was a Stalinist Jew accused of numerous war crimes. Immediately after the end of World War II, Morel became commander of the Zgoda labor camp in Świętochłowice in Poland. During the rise of the Polish United Workers’ Party, Morel acquired the rank of colonel in the political police, or MBP, and commanded a prison in Katowice.

For fifty years not one American, Zionist owned publication mentioned his name. Murdering Germans for sport is permissible in Judaism, as anyone that has cursory knowledge of the Talmudic teachings is familiar with this fact.

Poland demanded Morel’s extradition, in 1998 and again in 2005, but Israel refused to comply, first rejecting the war crimes charges as false and again rejected extradition on grounds that Morel was in poor health. Israel also claimed that the war crimes Morel was guilty of had passed the statute of limitations. Israel also claimed that the charges against Morel were anti-Semitic because they were brought against Morel by more than one-hundred former prisoners, mostly ethnic Germans, and allied citizens."CONTINUED

 

Thanks for the explanation. So, he is dead now! Good-riddance!
But doesn't it show you very clearly, how Israel disregards all those reasons you mention when it comes to hunting down the Germans regardless of their age, physical conditions or how long ago their so called "crime" was committed? The really sad thing in this scenario is Germany's over-eagerness to judge and punish their own citizens, no matter how silly the charges are. Their masters can always count on them to follow orders!
Sickening!!

 

There is no official "Fuhrerbefehl" because Hitler has learned that civilized people do not accept mass murder. He ordered killing of the mental and physical disabled before, but failed. The people were outraged, so he had to stop that action. Sometimes even a dictator has to pay attention to the sensitivities of his people.

But there indeed was an order to exterminate the Jews, that HC deniers don't know. Himmler mentioned it in his diary.

Source: https://www.theguardian.com/g2/story/0,,297554,00.html

 

Holocaust Denial is based on hatred of Jews.

 

Eichmann also admitted to the Holocaust before he was captured by the Israelis.

 

HDs have to admit, Auschwitz sure did have a shitload of cremation ovens for a so-called "work camp".

And Treblinka receiving 800,000 Jews but there are no records of them leaving.

where did they go?

 

There's an incredible amount of witnesses and evidence. But HC deniers never won't accept anything. They would even deny the HC if they could travel back in time and watch the killings!

 

Himmler talks to SS officers about extermination of the Jews:
(With English subtitles, but even more terrible if you understand the German language)

 

The forgotten part of the Holocaust.
French priest Patrick Dubois is investigating mass shootings of Jews in Ukraine and Belarus.

 

I read the article you cited which is almost 20 years old & refers to articles even earlier than that.
If there were really a German plan to exterminate 6 million Jews on a systematic & industrialized scale, there would have had to have been far more extensive, specific & detailed direct orders than a vague & passing reference to executing Jews and partisans in an incomplete diary (the German word "als" as you know can also mean "as if").

Secondly, If Himmler & Hitler wanted to exterminate all Jews, they would not have allowed 150,000 to serve in Germany's WW2 military with many rising to the highest ranks(1) of General and Admiral. If the big plan were to exterminate all Jews, one would certainly not put a Jewish General in charge of 100,000 soldiers.

Thirdly, There was nothing in intercepted German radio transmissions to indicate that anyone was to be executed.(2) In fact, there is more discussion by the Germans as how to save lives and nothing about homicidal gas chambers.

Finally, do you believe Gena Turgel's story(3) about surviving a gas chamber because "...it must not have worked" and that Ms Turgel lived a long & healthy life after:
1. "Surviving" life in 3 work camps
2. Survived the mythical Auschwitz homicidal gas chambers claiming that: " "I just never realized I was in the gas chamber ... it must not have worked."
3. Like about 1/2 Holo-tales, she, too survived experimentations by the ubiquitous & very busy Dr. Mengele.
4. Ms. Turgel claims that crying was punishable by death: “To cry in Auschwitz could have you shot," she said.
5. Just happened to bump into the sickly Anne Frank during her adventures.
6. Finally, like many spectacular Holo-tales, she marries one of the liberating British prison guards.

I hope you can understand how there is nothing hateful or anti Semitic about refusing to believe outrageous stories like Gena Turgel's and the innumerable others that have been told for profit, fame & attention at the expense of the German people.

Thanks,


(1) "AS MANY AS 150000 JEWS SERVED IN HITLERS MILITARY"
https://thegreateststorynevertold.tv/as-many-as-150000-jews-served-in-hitlers-military/

EXCERPT "As many as 150000 Jews served in Hitlers military, some with the Nazi leader's explicit consent, according to a U.S. historian who has interviewed hundreds of former soldiers.

Bryan Mark Rigg, history professor at the American Military University in Virginia, told Reuters on Thursday that the issue of soldiers of partial Jewish descent was long a somewhat taboo subject, overlooked by most academics as it threw up thorny questions."CONTINUED


(2) “THE HOLOCAUST NARRATIVE” by Nicholas Kollerstrom
https://archive.org/stream/BreakingTheSpell_48/BreakingTheSpell-Kollerstrom_djvu.txt

EXCERPT “In 1941, British Intelligence analysts cracked the German “Enigma” code. This undermined the German war effort—but also threw new light on day-by-day events in the Nazi concentration camp system. Between January 1942 and January 1943, encrypted radio communications between those camps and the Berlin headquarters were intercepted and decrypted.

Oddly enough, historians have largely ignored the information furnished in these intercepts relating to “arrivals,” “departures,” recorded deaths and other events at these camps.The only reasonable explanation is that the intercepted data contra-dicts, even refutes, the orthodox “Holocaust” narrative.

The information does not expose a program of mass murder and racial genocide. Quite the opposite: it reveals that the Germans were determined, desperate even, to reduce the death rate in their work camps, which was caused by catastrophic typhus epidemics.”CONTINUED


(3) "Auschwitz Survivor Gena Turgel Walked Out of Gas Chamber Alive"
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/...a-turgel-walked-out-gas-chamber-alive-n293496

 

Do not forget that the Nazis destroyed many documents. They estimated that they had to kill 11 million Jews. Crematoria and gas chambers of Auschwitz even had a much larger capacity than that. Nevertheless, the Nazis set up some more extermination camps in Poland.

Why not? They could kill them when the war is over.

Sure, there was. Look here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Höfle_Telegram

Don't know if that's true. But on the overall reality of the HC it has no influence.

 

the nazis were some truly evil "people"

 

Not from their point of view. They thought it is absolutely necessary to exterminate the Jews.

They believed in a race war. They believed that the Jews fight all other races since many thousands of years. Shooting and gassing civilians, women and children wasn't fun for Nazis. They weren't sadists. They believed it was their duty to exterminate the Jews to protect the human race.

Nazis considered themselves good guys; heroes who had a hard work to do.
It really was that crazy.
Did you know why they chose gassing? They did it because many of the Nazi riflemen could not stand the hour-long killings.

Nazis weren't monsters without feelings. They believed in lots of bullshit that finally leads them to terrible crimes.

 

That without question is the most creepy thing about it. A while back I was reading of some who were admitting what they did but they could not see anything wrong in it. They did though know it was wrong. That is why they went to all extents possible to hide it.

 

They hid their crimes because they knew that ordinary citizens wouldn't understand.

I saw an old documentary where an SS killer was interviewed:

Reporter: "How did you feel as you shot all these people?"
SS Guy: "What do you mean by that?"
Reporter: "You must have thought of something!"
SS Guy: "I did not think about anything. I was focused on accurate aiming. They should not suffer for long."
Reporter: "But they were human beings like you and me!"
SS Guy: "No! They only were Jews!"