French Intel Report Names Rebel Groups, But Who Are They?

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  1. MMC

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    But not all and then there is the fact that they admitted to when it concerns Assad. Doing so this 2018.




    But tensions have mounted in recent months, with Damascus threatening to march into parts of eastern and northern Syria captured by the SDF with support from the U.S.-led coalition.


    Underlining that, pro-Syrian government forces attacked the SDF in the eastern province of Deir al-Zor, drawing coalition air strikes overnight that killed more than 100 of the attackers, the coalition said.


    The main Syrian Kurdish groups remain wedded to their vision of a Syria where they enjoy autonomy in a form of federalism that is at odds with Assad’s determination to recover all Syria. .....snip~


    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-m...-idUSKBN1FV078


    Oh, and trying reading the PDF on the Kurds and Syria. Rather than just winging it.
     
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  2. Ethereal

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    Nobody said the Kurds agree with Assad on everything. Clearly they have differences of opinion. But that does not make them part of the rebellion. Kurdish leaders themselves have said as much, as I've already proven.
     
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    Yet you haven't proven it.....and Assad's forces getting into it with the Kurds outside of Afrin validates that.
     
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    I provided direct quotes from Kurdish leadership that prove I'm right.
     
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    You provided that some of the Kurdish Leadership backed out of the Damascus Declaration. That changes up nothing when it comes to their Autonomy against Assad. Which puts them at rebelling against Assad.

    In simple form.....that Means they are against Assad. Which even you should be able to figure that out.
     
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    Direct quotes from Kurdish leadership in Syria.

     
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    What did Chamseddin Hamo say. A Kurdish leader, Chairman of the Kurdish Union Party. That would be the leader of the PYKS also known as the Yekiti.

    Again......The Kurds are not going to give up the Land they took from Assad. Nor is Assad going to give them that land. They are against Assad. They are in Rebellion.
     
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    Repeating your lies will not change reality.

     
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    Repeating yours doesn't help you with that perception you have.....that just wont be forgotten.



    Both Osman Huseyin and Mustafa Ali Mousto have long opposed the Assad regime. They are among the staunch critics of the regime and support the Kurdish political organisations that became targets of the Syrian regime and the YPG, the Syrian wing of PKK, which is considered a terrorist organisation by the US, the EU and Turkey.


    Both men have paid heavily for their opposition. Huseyin survived an assassination attempt allegedly plotted by the YPG. And Mousto is now living in exile in Gaziantep, a province in Turkey's southeast, which hosts nearly 400,000 Syrian refugees......snip~


    https://www.trtworld.com/magazine/ho...-leaders-16242



    How do you think your Narrative looks now with your YPG/Assad Association.
     
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    My narrative looks stronger than ever.

    The article you posted is all about the main Kurdish group in Syria (the YPG) cooperating with the Assad government. The YPG are the US-backed Kurds fighting ISIS and AQ.

    Your own article proves me right.

    LOL
     
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    LMAO, first off it validates the Political Organizations against Assad. That are made up of the Kurds. That you deny exist. Second it points out the PKK Designated a Terrorist group by the US. Helped the YPG and Assad out.


    Which still leaves the Kurds in direct Opposition to Assad. So no it doesn't even come close to proving you Right.


    Oh and you still have come up with nothing on the Kurds Union Party and its leader. :laughing:
     
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    It's an article about the US-backed Kurds working with Assad.

    And you think it supports your position instead of mine.

    LOL
     
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    Well I got to get ready for work. Try studying up some more Ethereal. Then you might figure out why Trump backed away from the YPG Kurds.
     
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    Nothing is obvious no matter which side of the fence you sit on.

    I tend to be suspicious when Assad has absolutely no rational reason to use chemical weapons (the civil war is winding down, he was Western educated, he knows full well this could easily **** his regime, etc), while every other actor from ISIS to Islamist rebel groups to the White Helmets to the West ourselves all have massive stakes in seeing a chemical attack.

    I am reserving judgment for the time being.
     
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    Well you obbiously dont kmow Merkel. As usual she changed her opinion 180 within a day.

    Last week Merkel said a future can only be with Assad.
     
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    Lets see Ethereal....you were saying the Kurds weren't part of the Rebels. That they don't oppose Assad.

    Yet here I have shown who All the Rebels are. Then showed a couple of the Political Groups of Kurds that are against Assad.

    Which you say I am lying about. Despite the links I have shown. Coming from Reuters, Wikipedia which shows ALL the Rebels and Political Activists against Assad. Then a link to an Overseas Newsource that specifically Reports on the Kurds, Syria and Assad. Then a PDF on what is up with the Kurds.

    You come up with a link that says Some of the Kurds dropped out of the Damascus Declaration. Then a Link about the YPG Kurds siding with Assad in Afrin. Then state I am misrepresenting and misinforming people.

    Which I even topped it off with a Link from some of the YPG stating why they sided with Assad in Afrin. While admitting that other Kurds are fighting Assad outside of Afrin.

    Its not me misrepresenting the Kurds. But now you are on display and will have to show where I have lied. As it is clearly a credibility issue with yourself. Just like where you were wrong about Iran aiding and assisting AQ.

    Oh and then there was your link with some Regime Supporters denying the Chem Attack. While Russia and Assad prevented UN Investigators going into Douma to check out the Chem attack. With the Russians blaming the Brits for the Chem attack.

    The perception here is.....I knew what the facts were and what was the real truth was. You didn't and were misrepresenting and misinforming people. Now is your chance to prove what I said and back your play. Failure to do so.....leaves you with no credibility on this issue.
     
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    No, not really. Perhaps there were some in the beginning, but they gave way to ISIS and AQ years ago.
     
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    Ah, just realized this thread was also censored by the MODS, sent to an irrelevant subforum that nobody reads.

    Why are they so desperate to send my threads to lightly trafficked forums? Why is a thread about rebels in Syria in the "western Europe" subforum anyway?

    Try not to make it look so obvious guys. It's a bit hamfisted.
     
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    That's what it's all been about in a cotton-pickin' nutshell - for some reason they want Syria to be their caliphate: but the West has always called them 'rebels' because of the grammatical association with 'freedom fighters', thereby subliminally making Assad the villain of the piece. We all in for some extremely hard lessons in the foreseeable future I'm afraid.
     
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