FYI, Proof is still PROOF even if it isn't "WIDESPREAD"

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  1. Darthcervantes

    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah you heard it! I'm onto your little game of saying there was no "WIDESPREAD" voter fraud.
    What kind of logic is that any way? You guys think you are SO SMART with your clever (NOT) use of words.
    Lets see what else this amazing logic can apply to.

    The serial killer only killed 4 people, there was no "widespread" murder.
    Antifa only burned down 2 buildings, there was no "widespread" arsen.
    He only raped 2 women, there was no "widespread" rape.
    The liberal doctor only killed 82 abortion surviving babies, there was no "widespread" infanticide.

    The above is how SILLY you're argument sounds regarding your flawed usage of the word "WIDESPREAD"

    a little fraud in this state, some fraud in another, some in another on this coast, some on that coast...at the end of the day, these multiple instances equals WIDESPREAD

    I get you don't care about fraud because you won. If Trump won and there were allegations of fraud, I might be ignorant about it like you guys are ( hey I'm not perfect either), but I gotta say, your improper use of WIDESPREAD is false and deceptive and you aren't fooling anyone

    Thank you!
     
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    The difference between voter fraud and widespread voter fraud (mass voter fraud) is in determining whether or not it impacted the results of the election. You are correct that people who commit voter fraud should all be held accountable and charged, even if there were only a few instances, however overturning the results of the election when we know that fraud didn't have an impact on the outcome of the election is illogical
     
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    It's not a game. Seriously. Myself, I assume the rate of voter fraud to be common knowledge. The occurrence is rare, and has never had an effect on a presidential election. The argument Trump is making involves "massive voter fraud to the extent of reversing the election." You try typing that out every other post. It should be understood that "no proof of fraud" means no proof of Trump's claims of fraud.
     
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    There is voter fraud in every election. There are invalid ballots in every election. This years is not unique.

    Nobody has ever claimed that voter fraud and invalid ballots NEVER happen.

    But what is new is Trump's claim that they have occurred at a level that changes the results of the election. That's an enormous claim but it is never backed up with even a modicum of evidence. When people respond there there is no "widespread" election fraud this is what they are addressing.
     
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    Does it really need to be explained the difference between fraud and WIDESPREAD fraud? Seriously?

    Proof of someone trying to mail in a ballot of his dead grandfather is very different than proof of coordinated fraud big enough to impact enough votes to change the outcome of an election. So far....there is no proof of the latter.
     
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    You either think we should overturn the entire election if we find some much as a single instance of voter fraud or you understand why the "widespread" part is important. Take your pick.
     
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    There was not enough voter fraud to justify overturning the election, let alone flipping even one single state.

    Trump lost.
     
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    306-232. Deal with it.
     
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    There is fraud in every single election.

    But rarely is there enough fraud to justify flipping a state, let alone flipping an entire national election.

    Trump lost get over it
     
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    Not this much fraud!
     
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    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    tagged for post-fraud investigation information
     
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    Right...so much fraud that no one can ever provide a link to this fraud that would overturn the entire election. You seem to know something DHS, CISA, Barr, US attorneys and FBI don't know. Have you shared your evidence with any of the aforementioned groups/person?
     
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    If there was enough fraud to overturn an election, the higher powers would NEVER allow this information to reach the American public. This would prove our system is broken and its better for them in the long run to cover it up. Think about how we would be the laughing stock , the world news would be all over that "Americans can't count"
     
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    Ah....so it's a big cover-up. DHS, CISA, Barr, US attorneys, FBI....all in on it.

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    Yep. And the fact there there is no proof of enough fraud to overturn an election is evidence that it is real, apparently.
     
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    Yup. And I forgot to include all the judges who’ve thrown out all the cases for no evidence. They are all clearly in on it too. I’m always curious about how everyone is included. Is there some secret blast email that goes out to the group or some secret meeting that they all find out about through some type of signal. Maybe when Barr was on TV he flashed some type of special code that let them all know where to meet to discuss the particulars of the voter fraud efforts.
     
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    well there was some fraud, a couple republicans already caught, some are caught every election

    not enough fraud to effect the outcome of the election though, so Trump lost, Biden will be your President
     
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    so you think Trump cheated and everyone is hiding it from the people?
     
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    many think Trump cheated and could not have gained black vote support, but we can't prove it and it won't change the outcome of the election

    let me ask, how do you think Trump pulled it off?
     
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    With credible witnesses like Melissa Carone, Trumps team is sure to overturn this election...<sarcasm off>

     
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    The proof.

    This 1 minute video is shocking and the evidence is absolutely undeniable. 4 suitcases come out from under the tables, when no one is watching. This is just one precinct, the number of ballots in those suitcases in all likelihood exceeds the margin separating Trump and Biden.

    If anyone has a "legitimate" explanation, I am all ears:

     
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    I'm still waiting to hear about any credible, undeniable evidence of any kind that hasn't been refuted by the courts or the GOP in the states where fraud is claimed.

    Anyone?

    Anyone got something?

    Anyone at all?

    Hey maybe all those votes for Jo Jorgensen were fake mail in ballots! Maybe all of the Trump votes where really for her!

    Or maybe the GOP installed secret software in voting machines to change Jorgenson votes to Biden votes then to Howie Hawkins votes then to Trump votes and then back to Biden votes! I mean yeah, it could happen, I bet even the fake fake news wouldn't report that.

    Come on people the illuminati are everywhere doing the bidding of their reptilian alien overlords who secretly rule the world!

    Look at Biden, just look at him doesn't he look like a reptilian alien?!
     
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    The people, there were more than one, probably knew they were on camera and being surveilled the one 'suitcase' came out from under the table and was brought to the table in the back of the room where another person was...

    I don't know how you don't see that.
     
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    Because he doesn’t want to see it.
     

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