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  1. bx4

    bx4 Well-Known Member

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    High expense of left wing policies? Did you not notice how trump and the Rs exploded the deficit during a roaring economy, even before Covid?

    It’s true that Republicans only care about deficits when there’s a Dem in the WH.
     
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    CenterField Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    OK, need to go, I'm at work. See you all later.
     
  3. LoneStarGal

    LoneStarGal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trump submitted budgets with spending cuts. Nancy refused to pass anything without spending increases. The House controls the purse strings.

    If you Google "Trump budget cuts," you'll find fear and terror about damage caused by reducing spending written by the Democrat-owned left wing media.

    Trump tried to cut the budget, Covid relief being an exception. He was overruled. The Executive Office "suggests", but is not in control of what happens.
     
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    Link?
     
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    Doesn’t explain exploding the deficit in the first two years or why the R senate passed those budgets you attribute solely to Pelosi.
     
  6. GlobalCitizen

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    One possible solution is to make election monitoring like jury duty, at least partially. A problem with the current system is that the various election officials who claimed fraud or anomalies were all the same person to me (someone whose life is heavily invested in the election process, all middle class plus, similar age group etc). Although those people are good to have, I want a more diverse snapshot of America ALSO monitoring election results. As would be found in a jury...
     
  7. LoneStarGal

    LoneStarGal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have supported Trump's re-election because I determined that his policies were more practical and sound than Biden's.

    From here, I go back to being an Independent, looking at the 2022 mid-terms. I am solidly a conservative libertarian constitutionalist though, so I wouldn't expect my "preaching" to change much. The DNC platform is harmful to the country, IMO. Obviously many disagree, which is what makes intelligent debate interesting.

    For the most part, politics is a game played by the elites. We peons get to watch from the sidelines with no power to change outcomes with one lonely vote per person. So while it's fun to "pick a team" to root for, it's mostly interesting entertainment at the end of the day.
     
  8. Curious Always

    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well put me in a freezer and call me a popsicle.

    Turns out, Georgians don't like being called fraudsters, after all.
     
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    LoneStarGal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    BIPARTISAN RULE # 328947 of politics: Never accept blame when you screwed up an entire 2-year period for your party. LOL


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  10. StillBlue

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    Try recruiting fewer jackasses. What was Perdue's big talking point? You can't vote for someone so tight to the Chinese! And what was the connection? His production company made a documentary that another company bought and sold viewing rights to a third company in China which generated $1000 in royalties. He didn't even care what the documentary was on. Try something new like what would he do as senator rather than sad attempt at scare tactics.
     
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    BEFORE Trump stirred the pot;

    1. In the Senate, how many Democrates approved the $600 stimulus checks?

    2. In the House, how many Democrats approved the $600 stimulus checks?

    AFTER Trump stirred the pot:

    "Vote for the Dems, and get $2,000''

    Note: I blame Trump for the AFTER

    Comprendez?
     
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    cannabis legislation and the stand alone $2,000 stimulus to pass
    These runoffs are more than those 2 issues.
     
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  13. LoneStarGal

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    Republicans had to get a court order to observe absentee ballot counting in Fulton County yesterday. AGAIN.

    After all of the general election controversies, why would Fulton county election officials try to keep observers away? AGAIN. Allowing observation is a simple measure to help assure voters that there is transparency and access. It's also the law. People shouldn't have to go to court for officials to obey the law.

    The "other" loser in 2020: Atlanta, Georgia election integrity.

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ge...victory-for-ballot-count-observers-in-atlanta
     
  14. LoneStarGal

    LoneStarGal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm not opposed to mandated jury duty in order to get a cross-section of American demographics for court trials, but I would oppose having the government expand any government mandates for people to do civil service for the government, often in exchange for taking off work and losing income. But that's just me.

    The current problem is that observers are supposed to be allowed to observe.
     
  15. StillBlue

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    T**** had spending cuts in his budget but his overall budgets were still much higher. Cutting a billion out of VA and add 8 billion for a wall is not trying to reduce spending.
     
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    LoneStarGal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I took the time each year to look at the actual executive budget submitted and compare with the actual House budget passed, and not rely on "news" to provide a summary. Facts are peculiar things.
     
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    that's my main downside too.

    I agree, I want go pros up in there. Casino/airport facial recognition at polling station. Random cross sections of American society standing in the midst of it. The works lol
     
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    That's a good one.

    Who vetoed the stimulus because he didn't send enough money to the Americans ?

    Have you seen the spending and deficit curve from 2017 to January 2020?
     
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    That's a pre covid budget mind you. None of his budget proposals decreased overall spending.
     
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    I can't wait to see how many more lawsuits get thrown out of Court for lack of evidence........again. LOL

    And after Congress certifies Biden as the soon to be 46th POTUS, Trump's meltdowns on Twitter today will be priceless!
     
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  21. LoneStarGal

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    I'm going with a simpler solution. We need a non-partisan election commission to identify and "fix" everything that went wrong with the 2020 election. We can't have 40% of voters across all parties thinking our elections make us Banana Republic.

    At this point, it doesn't matter whether Democrats cheated or not. If 40% of voters perceive major issues in election integrity, that is a major issue which has to be resolved. Solve 2020, and we should have a better, "cleaner" system for the future.

    Turley has the right idea here:

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    https://www.usatoday.com/story/opin...on-prove-or-disprove-fraud-column/4132191001/
     
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    I don't concern myself with a politician who doesn't represent me. I don't live in CA. We don't get a say whether she stays or goes.
     
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    If you want to get rid of state autonomy to decide their own elections, I'm fine with that.

    The downside is that the EC is no longer relevant. It will be a national election, and the popular vote is now how we decide.

    Be careful what you wish for. Leave the states alone.
     
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    The problem is that just because Trump and his supporters say fraud happened without providing a shred of proof, does not make it so. Why would we need to waste time and money to look into fraud claims that have been shot down by every Judge in our Country including the SCOTUS, twice?
     
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    Not evenly divided. The Rep is losing ground as the older gen dies off. The majority of young adult and new american favors the Dem more. If the Rep don't evolved and stay anchored to 1950's politics they'll die off in a gen or two.
     
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