Gary Johnson>A real conservitive

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  1. marbro

    marbro New Member

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    Those of you sick of the two major parties growing government, growing our debt, spitting on our liberties. Join me in support of Gary Johnson. Send a message that we who believe in limited government, our consitution and our liberties are not to be silenced. WE HAVE A VOICE and GARY JOHNSON is our voice.


    http://www.garyjohnson2012.com/

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    Gary Johnson Stays On Virginia Ballot

    REPUBLICAN EFFORTS TO BOOT LIBERTARIAN CANDIDATE FAIL

    http://www.fitsnews.com/2012/09/05/gary-johnson-stays-on-virginia-ballot/

    Republicans are doing everything they can to suppress the voice of the third party.
     
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    Taxcutter New Member

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    So why doesn't he do something that makes political sense...like cozying up to the Tea Party?

    "Less spending, less taxation, less government" is the Tea Party mantra. How is that a problem for a libertarian?
     
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    Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't johnson just as weak on foreign affairs as the libertarian Ron Paul? Isn't it johnson who would let China run roughshod over our American interests and trade policies? I remember the financial guru Donald Trump saying as much about johnson.
     
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    Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't johnson just as weak on foreign affairs as the libertarian Ron Paul? Isn't it johnson who would let China run roughshod over our American interests and trade policies? I remember the financial guru Donald Trump saying as much about johnson.
     
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    Anikdote Well-Known Member

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    Why cozy up with a group that's trying to get your removed from the ballot? Furthermore, they're still just a wing of the same party that brought us a whole host of things that no libertarian wants any part of.
     
  6. Shiva_TD

    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    The problem is that the "Tea Party" advocates fiscal irresponsibility by our government. They want tax cuts when we have a trillion dollar deficit. When it comes to cutting the deficit they won't endorse cutting the DOD budget which is the elephant in the living room. Basically they want their cake and to eat it too.

    Gary Johnson has promised he will veto legislation that lacks funding and that would mean major cuts to the DOD budget as well as other major spending programs. Gary Johnson would also remove the US from foreign bases and reduce it's size to the point where we can afford it but the "Tea Party" opposes that as well.

    Basically the "Tea Party" isn't willing to accept what it takes to balance the US budget.
     
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    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    Actually Gary Johnson is the only candidate that wouldn't allow China to continue to run roughshod over our economy. Gary Johnson supports repeal of the 16th Amendment and the imposition of a consumption tax with prebates. That would impose the identical taxes on goods made in China as those made in the United States. Currently American produced goods have embedded non-value added taxation and adminstrative costs adding somewhere between 10% to 25% to the costs of our goods while Chinese produced goods are not subjected to and that makes Chinese goods less expensive.

    Gary Johnson would level the playing field and neither Obama or Romney proposes that.
     
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    In his own words to Russia, President Obama believes he will be above restraint once the election is over.


    When he was still restrained over the last four years, he spent 5 $Trillion in new debt?


    How many $Trillions will he spend of our childrens and great grand childrends future, if we give him another four years.


    I like Gary Johnson. I am am a lifetime Resident of New Mexico and know his policies well.


    On another year, with less at stake, I'd be pround to vote for him, and a pox on both the major parties. But not in 2012, too much is at stake.
     
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    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    The problem is that the Republicans are also proposing a massive increase to the national debt. When we compare President Obama's proposed 2013 budget and Paul Ryan's 2013 House budget both add over $6 trillion to the national debt over the next ten years. Neither budget promises a balanced budget anytime in the foreseeable future although there is a mythical chance under Ryan's budget projections that the US budget might balance in 2040. I say "mythical" because Ryan's budget projection is based upon mythical expansion of the economy which the CBO has already stated won't occur based upon the national debt. The fact is that both Republicans and Democrats are proposing at least the doubling of our national debt.

    In New Mexico the Democrats have a 2:1 advantage over registered Republicans and it is highly unlikely to be a battleground state.

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...new_mexico/election_2012_new_mexico_president

    The 9% represents likely Johnson supporters as New Mexico is his best polling state and that 9% will not effect the presidential election. I would highly suggest voting based upon the belief that Johnson is the best candidate on the ballot because he is. While it is virtually impossible for Johnson to be elected (people would actually have to vote for the best candidate for that to happen and they won't) the more votes for Johnson in the 2012 election could affect our future elections by placing the Libertarian candidate into the Presidential debates. The American People are being denied the exposure to the political position of Johnson which they could compare to Romney and Obama and that is simply wrong. Democrats and Republicans have joined forces to oppress any non-statist opinions from being considered by the electorate.

    Vote to break this control of our political process by Republicans and Democrats....... and vote for the best candidate. It is a vote for America.
     

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