Gates ... huh

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  1. spiritgide

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    We have three times as many lawyers as the second closest nation in the world, because we have allowed them to turn tort litigation into an high-profit industry.

    IF you watch those ambulance-chaser ads from the attorneys... A typical one says something like "The ingredients in Round UP may cause cancer- How can they do this to me?"
    They don't have proof it is the cause- yet they find juries they can convince to give them money anyway. Guilt is applied to deep pockets- the poor aren't guilty, because they don't have money- there,s no profit in that, so they look upstream to manufacturers. Lawyers don't need proof anymore. They just need a jury that want to blame big companies for everything, to feel they are doing something "just".
    Why? ONE reason- the lawyers get half the money.

    Did you ever read the instructions on the labels of Round Up, or any of the many herbicides made with similar ingredients? They aren't vague, they are extremely clear in warning you that the product is toxic, that you must not get it on your skin, that if you do you need to immediately wash it thoroughly, that you must not breath in the vapors of mist if you spray it, that you should never spray in windy conditions- and much more. One thing that should have added in a form that would apply at the moment of purchase-
    Is that If you are an F'ing idiot that doesn't bother to read or pay attention to warning labels, you must not buy this product at all.

    And farmers are not owned or controlled by Monsanto, and you know that too- or should. However, IF they do buy Monsantos engineered seed, they do sign an agreement as to how it can be used. For example, they cannot save a portion of their wheat or corn from the crop to use as seed in the future. However they are free to use some other type of seed. This is like a patent or copyright, preserving the benefit resulting from all the time and expense of developing that seed, preventing it from being bought once and used or given away indefinitely.

    You would be wise to educate yourself on things in more depth before you jump to conclusions based on the reports of whiners and lawyers who would sue their mothers for a buck.
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Vaccines that Gates pushes are not those Boomers
    received like a Polio vaccination.Which had a downside but was
    urgent.
    Gates is a firm advocate of Population control.Therefore
    vaccines that can sterilize.Why does a Pregnant Mom
    going into Hospital for a delievery have nurses demanding she
    receive shots.This is an entirely new development the last decade.
    For context ... Lon Chaney Jr. { Son of Legend Lon Chaney } was
    born on a cold winter day ... Lifeless.In a last surge of trying to
    save his newborn,Lon Chaney raced out to the nearby pond
    and dipped the Lifeless body into the frozen waters of the pond.
    Thus resuscitating the baby.
    Highly controvercial and unorthodox,but it worked.
    That is not the kind of way a Gates operates.He operates
    for a mass application of his Mass Hysteria to Control.
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I get it according to Your Leftist mindset,Roundup may have been
    banned by err.By mistake.I suppose the same logic applies to
    possible negative reactions to certain GMO.Which is why it literally took
    an entire decade before labeling of GMO foods were mandated.
    Just to be on the safe side.Maybe Roundup should have just used the
    same disclaimer.According to the Gospel of Leftism.
     
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    PBS is like that. They try to be balanced, but they do have a liberal leaning point of view. I think their one reporter has been good at calling out Trump without having to make the accusation. It seems when Trump resorts to the "N" word, "nasty", that he is squirming, trying to BS his way out of his BS.
     
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    You don't know about corn? Monsanto sells corn seeds that are genetically modified to work with their pesticides and herbicides. Thing about corn is that its pollen is carried on the wind, and on the legs of insects. Thus their corn's DNA has crossbred with other strains, allowing Monsanto to assess royalties to corn seeds not from Monsanto.
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I see where Pelosi tried to sneak in funding for PBS along with
    Planned Parenthood in the Emergency $ 2.2 Trillion funding bill.
    Bills Gates father Bill Gates Sr. was on the board of Planned Parenthood.
    And his Maternal Grandfather J.W. Maxwell was given an award in 1937
    By Hitler for Eugenics.
    Gates Credits The most powerful Globalist { *David Rockefeller } for
    many teachable moments and as a major influence.

    * The SOB only managed to live to be just short of 102 yrs.old
    How did the SOB manage that.Like how other Globalist are now
    looking like they 60 yrs.old when in their mid 80's.
     
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    Funny my daughter didn't have to get a shot for any of her four kids including the one born a year ago this past February. The "science" upon which the round up law suit is based is unconscionably vague and has far more to do with the insane hatred of Monsanto in Europe than anything to do with the product itself. Monsanto's insistence that seeds can't be kept for future planting wasn't original with Monsanto. It had to do with an agreement with the European Union in order to prevent possible cross pollination between Monsanto GMO's and other hybrids. To date I am wholly unaware of any decent study indicating any significant harm from GMO'S to anyone beyond that found in non GMO foods. Is if you have a gluten allergy, about 1 in a million or so if you are of European ancestry, then that allergy occurs whether the wheat is one more than a dozen different hybrids or GMO. I do know of millions of people saved from debilitating diseases by GMO'S.
     
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    It's called an allergic reaction.Like with Peanuts and some folk.
    You do get out of the house I assume.Even though the Ball Parks
    are closed.
     
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    That's what I'm talking about...
     
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    When you have that kind of money you can afford the occasional facelift and the best possible medical care.
     
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    Bullshit complete utter fabrication by the I hate Monsanto crowd and something you could never get to stand up in a court of law in any case. In fact given the inveterate hatred of Monsanto in a lot if places around the world the farmer would have a better chance of suing Monsanto for damages.
     
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    Seriously- you should read the labels on this stuff. I've used it, have a life-long farmer friend who has too. Many things ARE potentially dangerous to use, and we see elaborate warnings and instructions on most of them- which the majority of people not only ignore, they don't even read. The lawyers response to that is that the manufacturer should have known their product would be used by such people, and so should have taken greater steps to protect them from themselves.

    Nature on the other hand says that if you are too stupid or lazy to protect yourself, the world is better off without you. We don't listen to nature, because we are smarter- and the lawyers can't profit from the rules that make nature work.

    Their is some risk in everything new, and of course some benefits. We don't always know the risks, because some don't expose themselves for long periods of time.

    Take these drugs the lawyers are profiting from. Some think they are just rushed through to make money. Read this:

    "Developing a new prescription medicine that gains marketing approval is estimated to cost drugmakers $2.6 billion according to a recent study by Tufts Center for the Study of Drug Development and published in the Journal of Health Economics. This is up from $802 million in 2003—equal to approximately $1 billion in 2013 dollars, and thus a 145 percent increase in the ten year study gap. Furthermore, while the average time it takes to bring a drug through clinical trials has decreased, the rate of success has gone down by almost half, to just 12 percent."

    Spend $2.6 billion developing a new drug- and only 12% of those you develop will finally be approved. Then, the lawyers will attack, because you were careless...... Right.

    IF we want everything perfect- absolutely noting will happen, nothing will change or improve.
    That's how it works- nothing, including you and I- are perfect. Deal with it.
     
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    The mere simple Fact that Monsanto could care less what Actual
    Farmers and the Farming Community thinks is All the Proof a sane
    person needs.There are Corrupt judges.
    Taken to extremes like in the Chevy Chase/Dan Aykroyd Comedy :
    - Nothing But Trouble { 1991 }
    A real hoot.A laugh a minute.
     
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    What does nature say or Imply Before a Hurricane or Tornado.
    We know what nature says afterward.Ya shoulda moved her doggone
    Butt Faster ... Bub.And Mrs.Bub,likewise.
     
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    Of course they are corrupt judges but such tend to die Young in places not in the west and for all practical purposes such edicts. And Monsanto damn well cares. Lose enough customers and you go broke.
     
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    Not from what I understand and have read.Monsanto wanted to
    Literally be the only player in town.They used that approach for more
    than a decade.Which worked when Farmers died out and Their Farms
    had to take the hit with Estate Taxes.The Farm could not survive when
    Grandpa died and there were estate taxes and then the 2008 Banking
    crisis hit.Bankers were denying Farmers their annual loans for stuff like
    feed,seed,supplies and equipment repair.So Monsanto took advantage
    and saw an opportuinity to exploit their product.Which was GMO.
    Farmers who had surplus supply of older seed were threatened by
    having their neighbor Farm bought out from under them and then before
    you knew it Many Farms were taken over.
    Same damn thing that happened during the Dust Bowl years { 1930's}
    Year after year of extreme drought where high winds were blowing away
    what little top soil existed.Then the bankers came in to Foreclose because
    Farms could no longer plant due to severe drought conditions.The Bankers
    just as soon Bulldoze down the Farms in order to keep squatters away.
    Laws were enacted to arrest squatters.Even squatters from their own
    Farm.
     
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    Sorry 1930 no of that had anything to do with monsanto
     
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    ~ Exactly. Fortunately Trump and a few others in Congress realize this. Hopefully that is enough to avoid the demise of America.

    -- By the way - HERE is a pandemic pandemonium :

    CDC estimates* that from October 1, 2019, through March 28, 2020, there have been:
    ▶ 39,000,000 – 55,000,000 flu illnesses
    ▶18,000,000 – 26,000,000 flu medical visits
    ▶400,000 – 730,000 flu hospitalizations
    24,000 – 63,000 flu deaths :worry: :tombstone:
     
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    The comparison is not that dissimilar.Farms during the dust bowl
    1930's and the Plains faced the worst plague of conditions that
    Farmers had ever face in our Country's history.
    2008 also ushered-in a new plague of farm conditions.
    Bank Failures.Banks are essential for Farms and Farmers.
    They rely on Bank loans to get from season to season.
    When you have unfair Estate Tax Laws { Only exempt from
    $ 5 million and up } instead of what Mitch McConnell managed to
    pass .... Lowering that Estate tax threshold down to $ 1 Million.
    Meaning a Farm worth $ 1 million is exempt from Estate Taxation.
     
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    He thinks Fauci is bit uppity and a control freak
     
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    I knew I had that ass backwards.Farms worth $ 5 million were now deemed
    to be Exempt.Instead merely $ 1 million.Most Farms are worth
    much more than $ 1 million.Considering the acerage and Farm
    equipment which is big and costly.
     
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    McConnel managed to RAISE that Estate tax threshold from $ 1 Million
    to $ 5 million.McConnell was able to do it while Harry Reid was
    Senate Majority leader.By waiting out Reid on the Bush Tax cuts
    being due to expire in December of ... ?
     
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    Fauci is a big Hillary supporter.And also a Big supporter of the
    WHO.Or World Health Organization.Who sides with China as
    to this Pandemic Virus.
     
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    If you're using a iPhone then Bill Gates didn't make it. But neither did Steve Jobs he never invented anything. He just takes credit for it and screws his employees and partners out of the money
     
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    Jonathan Paul Ive is to blame lol
     

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