Gay Chrsitians: Oxymoron?

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  1. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    It's not my fault your mind is in the gutter. Maybe you should get some help with that.

    WHAT?

    Not true.

    on the parts of the parents of the gay child, yes. If they just weren't bigots it wouldn't be a problem.

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    Who said I supported anything? I just stated a fact. Children aren't considered equal by law.
     
  2. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ancient King Cyrus of Persia gave freedom of religion to all 127 provinces of the Medo - Persian Empire.

    Gay people would like to be treated with a similar level of respect.... because the fact that they knowingly volunteered to come down here into a body that would remember a recent past life as somebody of the opposite sex....... knowing that this would be difficult... but the extra gifts that they would have would help them to assist humanity in so many ways.. .that they felt it would be worth the risk.....
     
  3. cupid dave

    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    Gays promote Homosexuality and The Life, which is hedonistic and adds fuel to the fire the harlots create so as to encourage young people to be sexual outside of marriage.

    This whole syndrome of 1965 has changed what was a more prudent sexual attitude in the country to what we see today.
     
  4. cupid dave

    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    The Gay Agenda is to promote more sexual promiscuity in what they once openly called "The Life."
     
  5. cupid dave

    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    FACTS:

    In 2004, a group of researchers at the University of
    Chicago published a study of homosexual sexual
    relationships in that city.

    The research was led by Sociology Professor Edward O. Laumann. His team of researchers studied the sex habits of homosexuals in Shoreland, a “gay center” in Chicago. Laumann found the following:

    * 42.9% of homosexual men in Shoreland had
    more than 60 sexual partners;
    18.4% had between 31 and 60 partners.

    * 61.3% of the area’s homosexual males had more
    than 30 partners.

    * 87.8% had more than 15.
     
  6. cupid dave

    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    But now with this knowledge below, even you can see that fatherlessness is not good for children:

    Statistics on Fatherlessness
    CHILDREN NEED BOTH PARENTS
    (*)
    It’s a Fact
    Here’s why:

    63% of youth suicides are from fatherless homes. (Source: U.S. D.H.H.S., Bureau of the Census).

    90% of all homeless and runaway children are from fatherless homes.

    85% of all children that exhibit behavioral disorders come from fatherless homes.
    (Source: Center for Disease Control).

    80% of rapist motivated by displaced anger come from fatherless homes. (Source:
    Criminal Justice and Behavior, Vol. 14, pp. 403-26).

    71% of all high school dropouts come from fatherless homes. (Source: National Principals Assoc. Report on the State of High Schools).

    85% of all youths sitting in prisons grew up in a fatherless home. (Source: Fulton County Georgia jail populations, Texas Dept. Of Corrections, 1992).

    These statistics translate to mean that children from fatherless homes are:

    5 times more likely to commit suicide
    32 times more likely to run away
    20 times more likely to have behavioral disorders
    14 times more likely to commit rape
    9 times more likely to drop out of high school
    20 times more likely to end up in prison

    Children from "fatherless families of single mother" homes are*:
    (*)
    • 15.3 times more likely to have behavioral disorders
    • 4.6 times more likely to commit suicide
    • 6.6 times more likely to become teenaged mothers
    • 24.3 times more likely to run away
    • 15.3 times more likely to have behavioral disorders
    • 6.3 times more likely to be in a state-operated institutions
    • 10.8 times more likely to commit rape
    • 6.6 times more likely to drop out of school
    • 15.3 times more likely to end up in prison while a teenage
    • 73% of adolescent murderers come from mother only homes
    •(*) 6.3 times more likely to be in state operated institutions
    (*)
    Daughters who live in mother only homes are 92% more likely to divorce**

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    So people concerned about the kids are classified by Gays to be bigots.
    Not good.
     
  7. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    jealous?
     
  8. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    Never said it was
    No, parents that treattheir kids like garbage because their children are gay, do not give a (*)(*)(*)(*) about kids and are extreme bigots.
     
  9. dairyair

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    What is perversion? According to the bible, sex for none other than procreation can be perversion.
    adulterers?
    Sex with lights on?
    Sex not under the covers?
    Sex that isn't intercourse, missionary style?
    Perversion, very subjective.

    Wanting to marry is perversion? Weird things you believe.
     
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    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    No.
    Paul spelled perversion out quite well for you:

    Rom 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

    27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

    Paul is just saying what I am saying,... sexual promiscuity leads to trouble for the whole society.
     
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    Their kids ought understand that no parent really wants a gay kid.

    But if they get one, they would want the matter to be private, and not brought to their attention.
    Especially Daddy would prefer that cooperation, I am sure.

    What about the Gay?
    What is gained by rubbing daddy's nose in the thing which certainly, he does not want see and hearing about just means the spoiled Gay insists that dad know about it,... for no other reason.
     
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    Then why DO whatever you will do with men, and stop advertising it to these young people?

    You and the Feminists are teaching sexual promiscuity to teenagers which makes all our problems what they are.
     
  13. Polydectes

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    Parents ought to understand it isn't about what parents want. Torturing them to suicide isn't going to magically ungay them.

    Garbage parents would want that. Good patents tell their kids they can come to them for anything.

    If he is a jack ass.

    A father that doesn't give a (*)(*)(*)(*) about his kid ought not to be a father.

    Maybe the kid is 8 or 9 years old and is confused. Only a piece of (*)(*)(*)(*) would tell their kid they didn't care. Why would you support that?
     
  14. Polydectes

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    I don't advertise it.

    I don't teach sexual promiscuity. Why don't you stop falsely accusing everybody of things, get off your which hunt and examine yourself.
     
  15. dairyair

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    You really have issues. You should seek professional help for your own good and those who may be close to you.
    And not a religious professional, but a personal one who understands humanity.
     
  16. Paul7

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    Cite?

    Yes, that is sin.

    Not perversion, if done between a man and wife.

    I'm sure you think that, it says a lot about you.
     
  17. dairyair

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    You're the bible thumper.
    Work on getting it outlawed.
    Why? Cite?
    Perhaps, but it says more about you.
     
  18. Polydectes

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    You are placing a meaning there that isn't there. It's not against nature for a homosexual to bf with someone of the same sex. So this passage doesn't really address homosexuals.

    So monogamous gays are okay than?
     
  19. Polydectes

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    It wouldn't be a perversionif it was between two women or two men either. If it is than prove it.
     
  20. dairyair

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    So it's a sexual free for all in the sex department as long as it's between a man and a wife?
    Tie one spouse up, dressed in master/slave, whip, drop wax, stick material in places, etc, but it's ok as long as it's a man/wife?

    Perhaps perform in front of others? There is no limit if it's between man/wife?
     
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    And you're the one making crazy, baseless statements, back it up, if you can.

    It is, in the military.
     
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    Pretty much.

    I wouldn't recommend anal sex for anyone. From Wikipedia: "Unprotected receptive anal sex is the sex act most likely to result in HIV transmission.[19][20][21][102] Other infections that can be transmitted by unprotected anal sex are human papillomavirus (HPV) (which can increase risk of anal cancer[103]); typhoid fever;[104] amoebiasis; chlamydia;[20] cryptosporidiosis; E. coli infections; giardiasis; gonorrhea;[20] hepatitis A; hepatitis B; hepatitis C; herpes simplex;[20] Kaposi's sarcoma-associated herpesvirus (HHV-8);[105] lymphogranuloma venereum; Mycoplasma hominis; Mycoplasma genitalium; pubic lice;[20] salmonellosis; shigella; syphilis;[20] tuberculosis; and Ureaplasma urealyticum.[106]"

    That would violate the command to not show yourself naked. Are we done with the bizarre examples, I mean to lots of people do that? Do you?

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    My guideline is the Bible, which is backed up by lots of evidence of the dangers of gay sex. Its almost like God knew what He was talking about.

    http://www.catholiceducation.org/articles/homosexuality/ho0075.html
     
  23. dairyair

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    Not baseless. Ask your grandparents or great grandparents or someone from those generations.

    Cite? And you claim there are no divorcees in the military?
     
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    Including contraceptive practices?

    Life is all about individuality and their risk/reward attitude.
    The command? Not in the 10 commandments.
    Probably not, there are limitless examples.
    I don't know.
    I have not to this point and likely won't either.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_teachings_on_sexual_morality

    Funny then how they ended up as part of his creation. Almost like he wanted them. For they exist in most all of living creatures. Much like lefthandedness is part of the creation.
    If you're worried about the dangers of gay sex, then don't participate. Others may like the risk. Just like the other areas of straight sex scare you, the you shouldn't participate in those either. But to each their own.

    Although all three principal discussions of marriage in the New Testament (Matthew 19, I Corinthians 7, and Ephesians 5) omit any reference to generating children, later Catholic moral doctrine consistently emphasized that the only proper purpose of sexual relations was to conceive children.[14] During the entire Middle Ages, the question of when intercourse was allowed and when it was not, was very important. Intercourse was banned on all Sundays and all the many feast days, as well as the 20 days before Christmas, the 40 days before Easter, and often the 20 days before Pentecost, as well as three or more days before receiving Communion (which at that time was offered only a few times a year). These forbidden days altogether totaled about 40% of each year.[15] Penalties of 20 to 40 days of strict fasting on bread and water were imposed on transgressors. Clergy routinely warned believers that children conceived on holy days would be born leprous, epileptic, diabolically possessed, blind, or crippled. Intercourse was also forbidden during the menstrual period and pregnancy, partly out of concern for protecting the fetus.


    You say your guideline is the bible, but link to a catholic site. Here is what older versions of catholicism thought. Seems things can change with the time.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_teachings_on_sexual_morality
     
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    I would ask them the same question.

    No, I claimed adultery was prohibited in the military.
     

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