An enjoyable read until the author became tongue tied and confused. "Israel should by all means be criticised." Indeed Israel as a democracy welcomes criticism. The Israeli media is one of the most self-critical in the world. It scrutinizes Israeli society, including its security forces, to a much greater extent than any British paper has scrutinized the conduct of the British military in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya and elsewhere; or the New York Times has scrutinized the conduct of Americas armed forces in Afghanistan.
LOL, if you say so From the same article I just linked: Perhaps more damaging than the overt examples of The Guardian’s anti-Semitism that Elliot provides, is the paper’s long track record of being at or near the forefront of efforts to demonize the Jewish state: its decades’ long policy of greatly exaggerating any wrongdoing by Israel while ignoring, downplaying or even romanticizing attacks on her. So, for example, while The Guardian has run highly provocative and unfair headlines such as “Netanyahu turns to Nazi language,” (July 10, 2009) or “Israel simply has no right to exist” (Jan. 3, 2001) and while its writers have used very insulting terms such as “proto-fascist” (Feb. 12, 2009) to describe the Israeli cabinet, the paper takes a very different approach to those who have murdered Israelis. http://www.thecommentator.com/article/624/the_guardian_acknowledges_a_degree_of_anti_semitism As I said the Guardian is a virulently anti-Israel newspaper, everyone knows that the supporters of Israel know that, the Israel haters know that, I am not sure why you want to deny the obvious. It damages your [non-existent] reputation.
That is very funny. All that has happened there is that zionist organisations calling themselves such dumbass names as honest reporting and CIF watch have bombarded the Guardian with complaints that amount to nothing and the Guardian choked a bit and told their staff to be careful when they write about israel. The Guardian is not antisemitic at all and you are a joker who just throws that line out like all good little zionists,you even called me antisemitic earlier on. It is a well worn out line used by israeli supporters when they have no argument and their lies do not work.
I am glad you enjoyed it. What exactly is the relevance of the rest of your post to the topic we were discussing - that the Guardian is an anti-semitic newspaper? The admission came from the Guardian's editor.
Your article is written by Tom Gross who sole purpose in life seems to be championing israelis cause. Bit if a joker frankly but you love him. His grandfather was a German Jew and his mother was born in Israel. Who would have thunk?
Borat, you see anti semitisim everywhere. You probably think half the israelis on this forum are secret al qeada operatives. As for the Guradian. It is an enjoyable read.
Terrorists call Gaza ceasefire 'victory'; Egypt calls to cut ties with Israel The Guardian is an anti Semitic RAG. Tuesday, March 13, 2012 | ~ Ryan Jones of IsraelToday reports... The massive barrage of rockets and mortars shells from Gaza that pummeled southern Israel for the past few days finally died down on Tuesday as Israel and Palestinian terror groups settled into an informal and fragile ceasefire. Dozens of Israelis were wounded this week as 222 rockets struck across the northern Negev and parts of the coastal plain, and nearly one million civilians were forced to spend most of their time in bomb shelters. Schools in the area have been closed all week, and Israel's emotional crisis hotline, Eran, recorded a 150 percent increase in calls. In light of the fear they had instilled in so many Israelis, the Palestinian Islamic Jihad marked the ceasefire by declaring "victory for the blood of the martyrs, the Palestinian people and the resistance." Israeli army chief Gen. Benny Gantz said Israel would halt its retaliatory air strikes as long the terrorists cease launching rockets into southern Israel. "Quiet will be answered with quiet, and fire will be answered with fire," said Gantz. Israel responded to the unprecedented rocket fire with 37 air strikes on terrorist facilities and rocket squads. Twenty-six Palestinians were killed in the air strikes, nearly all of them terrorists. Gantz lamented that Israel had been unable to avoid some civilian casualties. "Twenty-two (of the Palestinians killed) were enemy forces, but sadly four civilians who were not involved in the clashes and were nearby were killed," said Gantz. We have made and continue to make every effort to hit the necessary targets but we will go as far as humanly possible to protect our citizens." The Islamists that now dominate Egypt's parliament did not care about the identities of the dead Palestinians, nor that Israel's military leaders had expressed regret over having to fight among civilian populations. The Egyptian parliament viewed Israel's strikes on Gaza as nothing short of war crimes and on Monday voted unanimously to expel Israel's ambassador from Cairo. "Egypt will never be the friend, partner or ally of the Zionist entity which we consider as the first enemy of Egypt and the Arab nation," read the text of the motion approved by Egyptian lawmakers.
Hmm, sounds like you want to "wipe" gaza "off the map." dont you see the hypocracy in what you said? Zionists are always parroting the "wipe off the map" catch phrase mistranslation, but it obviously seems Israel is the one actually wiping palestine (or whatever the hell you want to call it) off the map. interesting.
Comparing the official policy of the arab world (Hamas in particular) with the words of one anonymous blogger on the internet is a tad silly, don't you think?
Another couple things i want to remind you of borat are: 1. the majority of israelis are ashkinazi, who are not semitic. 2. true orthodox jews are against premature unrightous zionism as per scripture. ashkanazi khazars are in fact native to Georga not Israel. plus you have all the fake talmudic jews who follow talmud which contradicts mosaic law and the ten commandments.
I guess you can't recognize satire. The fact that given our exchanges in the past you would think I believe in the global jewish conspiracy that you obviously do. US of AIPAC I beleive you have called it.
Guess you can't read. I didn't go all quiet at all. I pointed out what a dumb comparison that is. Evidence? You didn't cite any instances were the populace was starving. You cited a spurious and salacious claim that one of the goals of the blockade was starvation. Since that has not occured, you "evidence" is a lame attempt to prove something that did not happen. When you have gotten back to reality, let me know.
1. big deal. 2. are you the abiter of what a true orthodox jew is? Or do you see a picture of a few out there hassidics who beleive that. Ashkanazis are not khazars. fake talmudic jews? Where you getting your "knowledge" from .... jewwatch?
it just bugs me when people pull the antishemite card when people criticise isreali policy because most jews arent simetic nor orthodox jew. talmudic jews are not orthodix nor jews at all IMO, talmud contradics mosaic law and is the bastard child of babylon. a true jew follows mosaic law and the ten commandments even with gentiles, not just jews. i get my knowledge from reading the ten commandments as well as talmud. anyone with a brain can see talmud contradicts ths ten commandments with the negative stuff it says about gentiles.
Seems you don't have any knowledge at all. Talmudic jews are for themost part orthodox jews (some conservatives) so your opinion is simply totally wrong. So you don't like the babylonian talmud, does that mean you like the jerusalem talmud? Contradictions in reglious writings? I guess you haven't actually read the old testament, or the Q'ran. As for the idea that the talmud contradicts the 10 commandments I actually found your fount of knowledge: http://encyclopediaegypt.com/israel/l032001.htm 10 Commandments: Torah vs "Jew" Talmud The 10 commandments Exodus is out of the Torah or Old Testament. The rest of the books here are out of the "Jew" Talmud any idea why the word "jew" is in quotations or why the author asks: "Tired of "Jews" telling you the bible is false and only their Tanach (Bible) version is true?" Imagine me accusing you of being an anti-semite, when the source of your "knowledge" comes from an anti-semite website. If you were any good at this game, you'd be a lot more subtle and a lot more knowledgeable.
Sorry but you cant get around it. talmud contradicts mosaic law. therefore talmudic jews are false jews even if they call themself orthodox. its much like all the so-called christians who dont follow the ten commandments either. they are all false and any claims of hertitige based on scripture are therefore completely null and void. orthodox judaism clearly says that the jews cannot return to israel until the messianic age. zionist jews are false and -zionism- is antisimitic. it is positively anti-christ in fact because it contradicts jewish messianic prophecy. add on to that the fact that palestinians are way more genetically semitic than isrealis. jews out there need to realise that the biggest threat out there against them comes from talmud and zionism itself.
Sorry but you cant get around it. talmud contradicts Torah. therefore talmudic jews are false jews even if they call themself orthodox. its much like all the so-called christians who dont follow the ten commandments either. they are all false and any claims of hertitige based on scripture are therefore completely null and void. orthodox judaism clearly says that the jews cannot return to israel until the messianic age. zionist jews are false and -zionism- is antisimitic. add on to that the fact that palestinians are way more genetically semitic than isrealis. jews out there need to realise that the biggest threat out there against them comes from talmud and zionism itself.
RE: Jerusalem talmud; i honestly have not read it so i cant comment. im referring to babylonian talmud i should have been more specific. cambridge and britannica websites i just looked up say another name for "jerusalem talmud" is "palestinian talmud." imagine that!
What a crock. You obviously have not read the talmud. Contradictions? yes there are many as one would expect with a compendium of oral laws enacted over hundreds of years. Are youfamiliar with the concept of dialetic analysis, with the Tosafot (additions), with the precedence the sugya de-shematsa (dominant discussion). Your conclusion about orthodox jews is so much nonsense. Your assertion that orthodox judaism clearly says that the jews cannot return to israel until the messianic age is nothing more than an obscure interpretation by a bunch of radically fundamentalist jews whose numbers don't amount to more than a couple of hundred. I must say that you are most definitive in espousing your ignorance and regurgitating spurious and specious crap.
I only say what i say because deep down i want to see a truly rightous Israel living in virtue and peace. jews not returning until the messianic age is true orthodox judaism. i truly believe that had tge jews waited and returned. during the messianic age arabs and muslims would have welcomed them with open arms. i think modern zionism was a monumental unrightous screw up for the jews.
quite a good response when you can't refute what I have to say. But at least you recognize me as your master.