George Bush Sr is an official witness at same-sex wedding

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/26/george-bush-sr-official-witness-same-sex-wedding

So the end is definitely coming to the US Right´s stupid stance on this. They sdeem to be oblivious to the rest of the worlds stance, minus radical islam.

It is more clear as the weeks go by, that the radical US Right, are peas in the same pod, with radical islam. Their agenda, morals and attitude towards their fellow man seem very aligned and they are just as irrelevant.

Another win for social liberty and freedom / the two thing that ironically the US Right wants to have, yet wants to deny others.

 

what about the polygamist & others adult(s) to adult(s) arrangements, why do you HATE them so much & discriminate just because they are different!

Serously apparently you don't know the value, definition, or fundamentals of the marriage institution. They can have all the civil unions or whatever they want to call them, but not marriage. BTW , this isn't a social liberty, it another step to make the state the center of everyone's life, period.

 

Society has a right to set limits on human choices and does all the time.

The hedonistic left has successfully pushed legalization of gay marriage and is now trying to criminalizes anyone who does not agree with it.

But that is just the upsidedown world we live in these days.

 

BTW, Bush Sr. was NEVER a conservative.

 

So basically, whaty you´re saying is that the US Right does not agree with the principle of personal freedom. Right, got you. This is where liberals disagree. We support personal freedom and we won´t give up on this ideal.

So we managed to corrupt Bush. Righto, on of the darlings of US Right politics has been corrupted by the liberals. I assumed he was of stronger character.

 

We do not accept the idea of unlimited personal freedom.

Society can set limits.

And in a sane society like America used to be gay marriage was not recognized.

Now as society slowly but surely begins to go insane gay marriage is allowed.

 

Good for Bush , i think the article raises the point that during their career politicians are always masking their beliefs with partisan ideology.

 

For many personal freedoms only end when they run afoul of someone else's freedoms. Gay marriage does not do this.

Of course they can...like making bigotry something that is unacceptable.

Can you point out why gay marriage makes us less sane? Would you have made the same argument for interracial marriages?

yOU Should explain how.....

 

¨Just so we have that on record. The US Right does not believe in personal freedom and liberty, and therefore by extension, personal responsibility, as one needs freedom, to be responsible for.

You believe that the State should nanny the gays, preventing them from doing hard to themselves.

Statist, statism, nanny stater. THis whole issue is a bit of a home goal for you isn´t it.

When the masses are popularly behind legislation, that seems to be the case, and all we see is that masses are no longer behind the prohibition of gay marriage. And President Bush has clearly spoken on the side of liberty and freedom for all. A true conservative to your plastic version.

 

Only if you see nothing wrong with two men having sex with each other.

And most libs do not.

But for most of human history that has not been considered normal or acceptable.

And ironically now that gays can marry they are still not happy and are actively trying to ferret out, criminalize and punish florists, photographers and sports announcers who sill have reservations about gay marriage.

 

How do homosexual relationships hurt you?

 

I think I am hurt when I get fired from my job if I express any disapproval of gay marriage.

I think as part of society I am hurt when gays promote homosexuality in the public schools to innocent children.

I think I'm hurt if my business is shut down because I don't want to photograph a gay wedding.

There are many ways we are hurt when human perversion legalized and forced to be accepted as normal.

 

I simply believe in their personal liberty to do so.

I simply believe in their rights as free people to do what they like, so long as it does not impact society, which it does nt.

I simply believe that individuals do not have the right, to restrict the rights of others, when it does not impact themselves.

Or, more simply, I am not a bigot.

 

What do you think of Christians?

 

That is a problem with your attitude and employment laws, not gats getting married.

Most gays don´t work in schools, my gay friends have professional engineering careers.

Which is a problem with the laws relating not to gay marriage.

You have failed to provide one. One single legitimate reason.
You´re not looking at the root cause. You are extending your own bigotry

 

Don't confuse conservatives with libertarians. Libertarians want to keep government out their lives as much as possible. Conservatives just want to keep government out of their wallets.

 

I´ll group them with all religions, as I do not discriminate between them. I believe they are misguided fools.

I do not want to restrict their liberty, I most certainly do not want to prevent them from marrying.

 

If every one else jumps off a cliff, would you do the same. This is a loss for moral decency and family.

 

This is not a definition of a modern day US conservative at all.

 

Do you stand around at work discussing gays and your disapproval of them?

 

So by your own definition you are a bigot.

 

THe tide has turned, you have lost. For your own sake, stop banging this particular drum. It is simp/ly making you more irrelevant in the eyes of your own country and the world. In the very same way that radical conservative islam makes itself irrelevant with its harsh views, your harsh views make your movement irrelevant.

 

Just because you don't like it doesn't mean your freedoms are impeded by it being sanctioned.

While that is not true it doesn't matter.

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You are a little confused........why do you support bigotry?

 

I have an opinion, but I defend their right to get married, along with everyone else.

Don´t try to shift the blame here. We are talking about the rights of people, that you want to restrict. Worse still, you want the government to be the instrument of this rights infringement.

SMALL GOVERNMENT!












Except when I want to impose my views on others.

 

The tide of poisonous degenerate immorality and social degredation.