George Zimmerman - "I am a victim"

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  1. JavisBeason

    JavisBeason New Member

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    once again, this trial had NOTHING... ZILCH... NADA.... to do with stand your ground

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    sorry you don't agree with it... but you aren't the definer of what is and is not murder in a state you don't live it. Sorry
     
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    I dont watch Fox. The NBPP comments were shown on CNN and commented on by Don Lemon. They are part of the topic. You can ignore them if it suits your agenda all you want to but they are part of the discussion.
     
  3. JavisBeason

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    any charging was 'over-charging' since, just like they initially said, there was not enough evidence to prosecute Z. However, that was not a good enough answer for the race-baiters, so they circumvented all traditional means to get charges pressed and try Z for a crime they had no evidence for. Then they acted surprised when a "not guilty" verdict was reached.
     
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    Micketto New Member Past Donor

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    Great reminder that Trayvon's attack was indeed racist.

    Did he hate Hispanics? Or guys that could be considered white?

    I guess we won't know now.
     
  5. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    There was no stalking and he acted in self-defense when he was victimized and assaulted because he is a "white cracka". Then he was victimized by the media, the prosecutor who should never have brought a case against him, then the President and numerous people on this board.
     
  6. Micketto

    Micketto New Member Past Donor

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    While it's expected you people are dying to overplay that race card here, you need to accept the truth some times.

    It was in FACT Watermelon Cocktail, not Iced Tea. It was never Iced Tea, it was only claimed to be because Iced Tea isn't used to make Purple Lean.

    Sometimes actual facts are not racist :(

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  7. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    No matter what "clout" they have although you ignore the fact they have enough to get occasional national coverage, they made an explict threat and called for harm to come Zimmerman, why hasn't Holder charged them with a crime, assault at the least.
     
  8. Micketto

    Micketto New Member Past Donor

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    Exactly.

    When you have the 2 biggest race-baiters in the country standing in front of cameras calling you a racist, followed by the stupid Spike Lee attempting (and failing miserably) to post your home address online, so people will take matters into their own hands, and then the President being the biggest race-baiter ever seen in this country by making statements about Trayvon possibly being his own son, and then the "that was me" stupidity (knowing what it would cause people to do).... of course Zimmerman was made a victim.

    Despite him killing a kid, rightfully or not, he was made a victim by the leaders of the black community.

    No one is saying he's got it worse off than the dead kid. He doesn't.
    But for these people to claim he isn't a victim of terrible treatment after being acquitted is just plain stupid.

    Why they don't just ignore him until he's dead soon... I have no idea.
    Must suck to be so obsessed with someone they hate.
     
  9. Channe

    Channe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    yeah, the only people giving them national coverage is Fox News - why do you think that is ?
    the black panthers are the kkk of the black community - but they are small in numbers and meaningless to bring up on any political level in today's world
     
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    Interesting opinion, thanks for sharing.
     
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    Channe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    i can't even tell if you're being sarcastic anymore
     
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    Making a hero of a wannabe cop who stalks and kills an unarmed teenager on an innocent errand is clearly not the brightest idea.

    I predicted that he'd walk, and supported the jury's deciding that there was a lack of evidence to convict him of the crime with which he was charged, but he's still proving that he's a lowlife.

    The nation really does not need any more OJs.

    The sooner he's consigned to obscurity, the better.

    I vow, here and now, not to purchase his probable overpriced book about the commercial exploitation of Christmas.
     
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    It remains an interesting case of American jurisprudence and media influence and public bias. No one is making a hero out of him but he is correct in how someone engaging in a lawful self defense can be victimized.
     
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    "sorry you don't agree with it... but you aren't the definer of what is and is not murder in a state you don't live it. Sorry " see the way things work in this country is a state legislature defines what is murder and what is not which is I suspect the point you were trying to make. That is obvious, 6th grade civics. I was expressing an opinion which is also obvious......to most. I do live in FL so please don't lie about reality.
     
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    I didn't know where you live, or even cared... but, according to FL, what Zimmerman did, was not murder, as evidenced by the acquittal.

    you claiming it was is makes you the one that lied about reality because your definition /= FL's definition.
     
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    ... and shot dead, in this case.
     
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    would that be anything like trying to make a martyr out of a kid who was buying ingredients for drugs, had been kicked out of school for drugs and had been found with burglary tools.... Next time race-baiters try to make a saint out of someone.... maybe get a kid who isn't trying to be a thug

    now, I can agree with that.... I don't like Zimmerman, either... he relishes the spotlight, he's a hypocrit in the fact that if it was anyone else but him in the situation that night, Z himself would be yelling for stricter gun control laws and racebaiting.... in true liberal fashion.... but none of that makes him guilty of murder. My support of Zimmerman before and during the trial has nothing to do with politics, but rather, beleif in a "innocent until proven guilty" way of justice that America has.

    I'd rather let 1000 guilty men go free than to imprison 1 innocent man....

    I agree, but the funny thing about Z is the fact that even a year after the trial, he still enrages racebaiters and liberals alike.... That's entertainment value for me 11ty-fold.... lol. Funny, it wasn't a Z supporter that posted this thread, or article... it was a race-baiting liberal.

    neither am I.

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    unless Z was chasing TM around with his gun drawn, to which I would agree with you that TM was the victim.... your point is not based in reality...
     
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    So your problem is that the jury ruled the killing justified...because it was justified? Personally, I believe that you don't like the ruling because you're black. That's racist on your part.
     
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    Is time primitive? Four minutes is a long time to go 80 feet unless something is wrong with you. Oh... wait, lol.
     
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    Nothing in my post says that at all.

    :wall:
     
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    agreed....

    I saw his post where he listed facts

    1. Zimmerman killed Trayvon (I agree, a fact)
    2. Zimmerman stalked Trayvon.....



    #2 is not a fact.... quite to the contrary, the state did not prove that to the jury at all....

    This simply comes down to EBE's not liking the verdict....


    I will add the caveat to your statement as to why EBE's doesn't agree with the verdict "... because you're black" to include "or because you hate guns, or because you're black AND hate guns"
     
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    Stalking, following, whatever. Following someone with a gun at your waist constitutes stalking in most people's eyes.
     
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    Following a stranger with a gun at night isn't considered stalking? What is it called then?


    I'm over the verdict. I don't like this guy claiming himself to be a victim when a 17 year old teenager is dead because of him. If he minds his own business and calls the cops, both parties walk away alive. PERIOD.

    .....somehow I become a racist that hates guns.

    <Insert typical conservative defense mechanism>
     
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    You could wish that on him, sure.

    Why be any different from the rest of his obsessive haters.

    Will that mean you guys stop talking about him?
     
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    Then why wasn't George Zimmerman charged with stalking? You've never answered this question.
     
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