Georges Lemaître: Father of The Big Bang Theory

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    Rebellion against absurdity.... Yes, very much so!

    Lost and wandering asking questions about why we would discard a single life, or why God would discard a single life? OK!
     
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    I don't believe I have asked a single question that doesn't allow someone to respond or add to it in thought....
    Why then would someone becomes so offended by it, answer nothing of the question nor seek to add anything to it in thought?
    The response sadly enough, is another declaration?

    Is question itself offensive? I think not!
     
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    Ok, again, you are this life.... Now actually answer the question without making another declaration of the same.......Is it A, B, C, or is there a D?
     
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    Again you run amuck with your anger & rebellion!

    "Fore knowing" the heart & soul of man is the result of a timeless God, where time is of no effect; yesterday, today, and tomorrow are all seen simultaneously by Him. Only we, who are bound by time, must 'walk it out' as He has already seen it.

    But you are limited in your thinking by this life of time-bounded self-reasoning, and CANNOT nor WILL NOT be open to the eternal things of God. Sorry about your 'handicap'...
     
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    If you aren't applying yourself to this life, but instead looking at it through your own..... You are missing the entire point of thought or question.
     
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    And obviously fore knowing a life in the moment of creating it and what it would become; why wouldn't God fix, add or alter this soul that it might be able to see the correct choice?
    Did the soul create itself where God had nothing to do with it? Now there is a contradiction in thought!

    Like I said, it's like God is rolling dice.... Creates a soul knowing it's entire outcome and then just says oh well, puts it in to motion just to quash it?
    Wow.... Really!
     
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    God has some ego, creating lives to destroy just to make his power known to those he decided to favor!

    Sounds lovely, no really!
     
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    Only for those with a limited knowledge of the will of God. The "fore knowing" follows the actions & decisions of a person, and that person is given opportunities to be redeemed...by conscious w/o the laws of God or B4 the Law, by the Law, and by Grace when all must and will stand B4 the One who is worthy to judge men, the One who lived as a man, or as the son of man, and all will make an account for themselves. The timeless God merely knows the final outcome following their conscious decisions made in this life. Judgement merely displays their works and either absolves them thru grace, or holds them accountable based on their own self-judgement as 'the light of God' is shone upon them.
     
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    My anger?
    Where?
    Questioning something makes me angry and rebellious?

    Who has started in on the personal attack here?
    Is this how it goes, someone that has the audacity to question something declared is instantaneously claimed to be angry and rebellious?
    This is how you choose to respond?
    I know your mind is stuck, I certainly don't judge you for it!
     
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    So wait, we are all given the same, equal opportunity to be redeemed?

    So when God creates our soul fore knowing all the choices made by this life..... He says, this one will succeed, this one will fail; and he considers this to actually be an equal playing field when he releases them into life that way?

    Perhaps God needs a lesson in logic, because it's incredibly lacking in it!
     
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    You must rally around your strawman to detract from my words as all you have are excuses and vain accusations...revol-t
     
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    Even if God had no idea of the outcome..... This life might succeed or it might not; how is he comfortable judging that which has been left entirely to chance?

    God is beginning to sound more like Satan in this ridiculous example of 'power'.
     
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    Continue to amuse yourself with your folly.....again operating in the futility of your mind & in your rebellion..you are all too transparent in your vain words.

    EDIT: You REALLY arent interested in the things of God, you just want to rant....therefore, asking your questions are but disingenuous, attempted gotcha's... you are no seeker of truth, just another sham.
     
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    Wait, what have I declared that I in result need to make excuses for?
    Do I need to make excuses for simple questions asked?
    Accusations? Am I the one declaring who is worthy and who is unworthy?

    Look at you, seething with offensiveness; so much, the only place for it to go is to lash out!

    I know where it comes from and how difficult is to let it go, I won't judge you for it!
     
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    Yes, only for those right?
    God's favored.... God's chosen.... God's loved
     
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    Let it all out, display your anger, justify it all in your purported superior uprightness; I know, I'm sorry, I won't judge you for it!
     
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    Sorry, but I'm not going to end this 'conversation' with an endless string of "Am not's...are Too's" as would be coming down to your level of harping...you have ended all your effort in folly......amusing if it wasnt so pitiful for how you started out.

    And I dont have to judge you, for you have judged yourself..and rightly.

    For per scripture, "By YOUR words YOU will be justified: and by YOUR words YOU will be condemned." So...laugh on...laughing boy....
     
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    Definitely not laughing, I don't find a single thing amusing about this; I come from a place of sincerity.... That sincerity includes a reality where not one life is ever discarded.... EVER!
    If you desire to condemn me in your belief, or condemn a single life; that is something that you will need to justify!
     
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    I have seen no 'sincerity,' maybe some self-righteousness, as trusting in yourself alone!

    And as I said in the previous post, "YOU condemn yourself!"

    Take off your self-imposed blinders & re-read all my previous posts..there is grace in them for those who will humble themselves to receive the truths in them..it's all there! And the humble will see it...for the Kingdom of God is for such as them.
     
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    If condemning myself is displaying love and compassion for every life including those that you declare to be unworthy of God's grace, thus making me unworthy as well, then yes, with every fiber of my being I condemn myself!
     
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    Per scripture, "No one is righteous, no not one: for all have sinned (missed the mark or std) and fallen short of the glory of God." Good luck with all that...trusting in your own 'self-righteousness!
     
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    What is our example of love and compassion as it is provided by God?

    A. Created a life and in that very moment creating it, knew it's entire outcome but still released it into the world knowing that it would in fact fail?

    B. Created a life based upon chance, maybe it will succeed, maybe it will fail; and then provided a system by which it will be judged, offering this chance a reward or punishment?

    This is the Christian example, if you claim that you can love and be compassionate to someone you believe is unworthy of God's grace... You are lying to yourself, even God did not have compassion for them.

    So then, do we pity them?.... Created to fail or left to chance, not much pity in that!

    But there is another option outside of this belief.....
    That every life is a part of God's grace, an equal expression.... Lives fail, not because they are unworthy or evil; because we as the collective, have yet to discover an expression of humanity so profoundly beautiful; that no life can enter and observe it without instantaneously seeing themselves within it.
    It is impossible to look away!
    We are all equally responsible for every failure in life, it is a brilliant looking glass into what we have yet to see in our own.
    Every time we discard a life, we have discarded a piece of ourselves and a piece of God's grace.
    If we embrace and love every life as if it was our own, it's offering is beyond any words contained within the binding of it's pages.

    I don't offer instruction, a righteous path, an absolute, a declared truth..... I offer to you, your own expression of love without bounds..... Take it and run!
     
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    Nice cut & paste, but very new-age-ish! Once I saw the word "collective" it gave itself away! Salvation for the Christian is personal, and not part of a collective as secularists such as Obama preach....new agers think that man is basically good and that all will go to heaven, if there is one..or Nirvana or where ever.

    That is incorrect...man is basically self-absorbed and self-focused, or self-driven..what feels good to him, it does. If it feels good to 'him' to do a kind act, he does so.

    For "where we were sinners who could do righteous acts: we (those who have no righteousness of their own but have received the Gift of Righteousness) are now praticers of righteousness who can sin"...and if we sin, we have an advocate B4 the Father, Christ Jesus, to plead our case..merely by holding out His nailed-pierced hands as our propitiation.
     
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    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxr51DrzdrE"]Resource Based Economy (Energy, Work) - Part 1 of 2 - YouTube[/ame]

    No law, no crime, no assessment of worth.... Only the expressive potential of the mind.....
    So pleased to have found this, I've been discussing this for twenty plus years....
     
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