Giuliani admits under oath - got his 'evidence' of alleged election fraud from social media

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  1. Noone

    Noone Well-Known Member

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    Nope, he’s not a witch, what is it with you guys and witches … and witch hunting?

    Rudy’s a dumb ass, he’s burning himself.
     
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    Marco Rubio ended it after he lost the primaries, and the left hired them a few months before the election

    when Hillary learned of it, she turned it over to the FBI vs using it, as she was supposed too

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/25/us/politics/steele-dossier-trump-expained.html

    "During the Republican primaries, a research firm called Fusion GPS was hired by The Washington Free Beacon, a conservative website, to unearth potentially damaging information about Mr. Trump. The Free Beacon — which was funded by a major donor supporting Mr. Trump’s rival for the party’s nomination, Senator Marco Rubio of Florida — told Fusion GPS to stop doing research on Mr. Trump in May 2016, as Mr. Trump was clinching the Republican nomination."
     
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    Democrats have questioned elections for decades and continue doing so to this day. And they get a lot of their election denials from social media as well.
     
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    Democrats have pursued LEGAL means to challenge elections. They didn't resort to fake elector schemes. Neither did any Republican before Trump.
     
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    But! They’ve NEVER violently attacked OUR Capitol.
     
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    They all say the same BS. There is not much difference between Democrats and Republicans. Both are trying their very best to have a successful political coupe where they can change the rules to keep themselves in power forever.
     
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  7. Noone

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    That’s horseshit. The right is a dying breed that sees tRaitor tRump’s goal of dictatorship as their only hope to gain and keep power.
     
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  8. Izzy

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    "Common Sense" is what the blithering idiot Giuliani named his show. lol

    'Giuliani and election fraud promoters didn't vet claims, new court documents show'

    Source: CNN Politics

    CNN — New court filings in a defamation lawsuit against Rudy Giuliani show the promoters of the election fraud narrative after Donald Trump lost the presidency failed to do basic vetting of the claims they were touting – and didn’t see such vetting as necessary. For instance, in a December 2020 text cited in Tuesday’s filing, Trump lawyer Boris Epshteyn said that the president wanted simple examples of election fraud, which didn’t need to be proven.

    “Urgent POTUS request need best examples of ‘election fraud’ that we’ve alleged that’s super easy to explain,” Epshteyn wrote, according to evidence attached to the filing. “Doesn’t necessarily have to be proven, but does need to be easy to understand. Is there any sort of ‘greatest hits’ clearinghouse that anyone has for best examples?”

    The documents were among a trove of evidence presented by two Georgia election workers suing Giuliani, a former Trump lawyer, for allegedly smearing them after the 2020 election. They are now asking a federal court to hold Giuliani liable for possibly losing crucial evidence after he pulled out of settlement talks.

    Giuliani is feeling legal pressure related to his work for Trump to contest the election in 2020, after he sat for interviews with the special counsel’s criminal investigation in June and faces possible disbarment as an attorney. The evidence in the lawsuit from Ruby Freeman and Wandrea “Shaye” Moss of Georgia, who were at the center of Giuliani’s claims that vote-counting was fraudulent in the state, includes documents that could be pursued by criminal investigators as well.'

    Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/12/politics/giuliani-defamation-election-fraud/index.html
     
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    The evidence for the Russia hoax was from social media in fact that's where it completely and totally took place so what?

    Social media is a place where people post evidence of all the things that they do that's a good source.
     
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    More bullshit from Ted Goodman.
    It's impossible to embarrass or intimidate Giuliani.
    If possible he would have slithered under a rock a few years ago and stayed there.

    'Georgia poll workers ask judge to sanction Giuliani in defamation case'

    By Andrew Goudsward
    July 12, 20232:34 PM EDTUpdated 2 hours ago

    snip:

    'Lawyers for the pair asked a Washington, D.C. federal judge to levy “severe” sanctions against Giuliani, including a default judgment finding Giuliani liable for defamation. Such a ruling would largely resolve the case except for the amount in damages the former New York mayor would have to pay.

    Attorneys for Giuliani and the election workers did not immediately return requests for comment.

    Ted Goodman, a political adviser to Giuliani, said the evidence requests were “deliberately overly burdensome” and sought information aimed at embarrassing and intimidating Giuliani.

    cont:
    https://www.reuters.com/legal/legal...sanction-giuliani-defamation-case-2023-07-12/
     
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  11. Izzy

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    Trump should have paid Rudy for his stellar legal work and given him a lawyer.

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    'Rudy Giuliani Could Be at the Ultimate Crossroads: To Protect Trump or Protect Himself '

    'Ex-NYC mayor's ‘queen for a day’ sessions with federal prosecutors lasted two mornings — and Trumpworld noticed'


    'Rudy Giuliani has faced almost every professional, personal and legal woe imaginable while connected to Donald Trump: multiple criminal investigations, mounting civil liabilities and likely disbarment.

    With so many sources of distress, it is little wonder why current and former Trump insiders and a number of legal experts think the former New York City mayor and ex-personal attorney to the president of the United States might want to be “queen for a day.”

    In late June, Giuliani voluntarily sat down with Special Counsel Jack Smith’s office to answer questions, another in a series of interviews that federal prosecutors have conducted with the former president’s innermost circle as part of the Justice Department’s sweeping criminal probe into the chaotic and violent events surrounding the last White House election.

    Such proffer sessions typically last a day, usually with the benefit of an agreement immunizing the interviewee from any criminal liability for their answers — hence the royalty moniker that often brings witnesses to a decision point of playing ball with prosecutors or defending themselves on trial in court. '

    Read More


    https://themessenger.com/politics/rudy-giuliani-queen-for-a-day-doj-trump
     
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    The Russian was a Hillary plant.. so it came from the Hillary campaign......
     
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    There is a metric **** load of difference, dude.
     
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    Who did that?
     
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    Bullshit. Democrats have never tried to stage a coup.
     
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    Dude, you are so far down the conspiracy rat-hole you may never see daylight again.
     
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    Zero proof of that. Such an amazing coincidence that she said Russia wanted to help Trump, and then they did exactly that. I wonder how Hillary could’ve known
     
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    Only a Complete Idiot would have ever bought into the "Election was Stolen" Bullshit...
    Case in Point (Rudy and Donnie)...
     
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    Quite the opposite... it is very well documents... PROVE ME WRONG...

    The Russian lawyer and Fusion’s Glenn Simpson met the day before and and the day after…. And in two different cities… Where is the DOJ investigation into that?

    ""Simpson also testified that he had dinner with Veselnitskaya the night before the meeting and the night after. In two different cities... What are the odds of that?""
    all documented
    page 117 Simpson transcript
    https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/Simpson Transcript_redacted.pdf

    https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/Simpson Transcript_redacted.pdf

    page 114

    https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/2017-11-20 Veselnitskaya to CEG (June 9 Meeting).pdf

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    It's really funny to hear today's republicans claiming that 1) Giuliani really cleaned up NYC and made it safe for families and 2) New York today is a crime ridden hell hole. You can't claim both.

    New York today is safer than it ever was during the Giuliani administration, and that is INCLUDING 2021 where there was a real spike in crime nationwide due in part to post covid lockdown. And it looks like that spike in NYC is coming back down with most major crimes coming down from the previous year (which admittedly had a big spike).
    But I still can't believe the amount of people who post here claiming that NYC is a crime capital. It just isn't and most people are just so easily swayed that they listen to Trump, MTG and Boebert without actually knowing the facts.
    My favourite is "NYC subway murders up 400%!!!!" Yeah there were 8 homicides last year compared to 2 the year before. So yes there was a spike in the last three years in subway murders. The equivalent of the population of Houston, 2400000 people ride the subway EVERY DAY (Houston homicides last year 435) . I like my odds.
    I lived in NY during Giuliani times, and early Bloomberg. Giuliani at the time, I found despicable, but thought that his one good quality was that he was so high on himself that he was probably not corruptible. Boy was I ever wrong on that one. Bloomberg who is the first republican I ever voted for while holding my nose really did way better than I would have thought. It still was the first time I saw a politician blatantly buying a position and that just does not sit well.
     
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    Seems you two are wrong AGAIN..

    All documented.... prove me wrong..

    Yes.... Veselnitskaya was a Hillary "plant"...
    Transcripts released Wednesday by the Senate Judiciary Committee say that Glenn Simpson, the co-founder of Fusion GPS, had dinner with Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya both the day before and the day after she met with Donald Trump, Jr. at Trump Tower on June 9, 2016.


    https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/pr...circumstances-surrounding-trump-tower-meeting
    https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/download/simpson-transcript-redacted
    https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/download/veselnitskaya-responses
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...ticipants-met-clinton-associate-ed-lieberman/
     
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    So how did she know? How did she know russian was gonna help trimp?
     

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