Gloria Allred’s Blunder on Roy Moore’s Yearbook Challenge

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    No one gets to examine the yearbook, until at least after the election is over. If Moore is defeated, then the yearbook, having served its purpose, will be released, and the woman who owns it will be thrown under the bus as a fraud. If Moore wins (and that would be an amazing commentary that Alabama voters would rather elect an accused sexual deviant than a democrat) then the yearbook will not be released until a judge orders it to be, which will probably be never.
     
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    Trump finally opts for the molester in yet another rift with the GOP's congressional leadership.

    This won't help them in their scheme to transfer wealth to the wealthiest by bloating the deficit.

    After the Trump®Care fiasco, they needed to get their act together.
     
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    The yearbook is a sideshow. The multiple, consistent accounts by disinterested witnesses and targets with no political agenda of Moore's preying on young women is more credible for most folks than the desperate politician's denials of everything.

    The Senate expelling him may be as damaging a process to the GOP as the Senate enduring his presence.

    http://pollingreport.com/politics.htm
     
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    The yearbook is proof of a Democratic Party organized campaign of lies to divert from all actual issues in the election.
     
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    Repeatedly she said "rumor was" and repeatedly said "we never got a complaint."
    I guess you forgot that part, huh?
     
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    Thats a good start

    But there may be other things that forgery experts could learn if allowed to examine the book
     
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    Moore was a democrat until 1992 and probably a Christian in name only most of his previous life

    But he has been happily married to the same Christian woman for decades

    So he is walking the walk now if not before

    Lets have the yearbook tested and see what happens
     
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    View attachment 61542
    ah!!!! Christianese



    so does moore have that special holy ghost anointing?


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    Moore has been a good Christian for many decades

    What happened is that democrats and corrupt establishment republicans could not defeat moore on the issues so they have to assissinate his reputaration instead

    And to do so they dredged the gutters of Alabama to find old women who wanted their 15 minutes of fame

    And the deep state political operatives timed their smear to just a few weeks before the election
     
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    so he has always been mentally ill
     
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    A nice breakdown by Rory, at Metabunk:

    I've managed to find some examples of Roy Moore's handwriting, which can be compared to the inscription in the yearbook:

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    Source: twitter.com/WarOnDumb/status/930163967783292928

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    Source: twitter.com/BobVanceJr/status/930221242375864320

    Seems very clear to me that all three were either written by the same person, or by an incredibly skilled forger.

    Compare the Ts, for example:

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    Not 100% exactly the same, but the same distinctive style, and as alike as most of us write our letters.

    We can also compare what looks like 'Jerry' in the biography inscription, and 'Merry' in the yearbook:

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    Again, not exact, but basically the same styles - bearing in mind that they were written 32 years apart.

    I won't go over all the similarities, of which many could be made - nor can I find any glaring differences, beyond the slight variances that would be expected.

    The thing is, for those who support him, it is the differences that are key, and what they are focused on. Hence analyses like this:

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    Source: cowgernation.com/2017/11/14/vindicated-signature-forged-12-discrepancies-roy-moores-alleged-yearbook-signature/

    Sure, there are subtle differences - though obviously we can discount 9 thru 12 - but it's the similarities that are more glaring in my eyes, and I guess this is where an awareness of confirmation bias comes in, on both sides.

    I wonder, though, if those producing analyses like this will have found suspicion in the marked differences in the different ways he has printed his name in the two places in the above image, or in the various examples of his accepted signature, which are about as different from one another as any of them are from the one in the yearbook:

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    Note: all of these signatures contain his middle initial. Would be quite interesting to find when he started doing this.
     
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    Moore's desperate attempt to discredit a single testimony while distracting from all those in the community who were familiar with his obsession with teenagers was the best he could hope to get away with, Since it failed, he must rely upon the hypocrisy of his White evangelicals, a not inconsiderable asset.
     
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    A retired police officer says that there was a "rumor" that Moore hung out with young teens, "but there was never any complaints." She said "rumor" and "no complaints" twice.

    From this Democrats are declaring this is proof of his guilt.

    It is easy to see why so many black men have been falsely convicted of rape by Southern white Democrats. All it takes is a police officer saying "there was a rumor" and that is enough for a conviction, doesn't even require a complaint to the police.
     
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    If its that open and shut Allred would not be withholding the evidence from independent experts to examine
     
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    Why won't the GOP Senate Judiciary Committee hold a hearing and investigation?
     
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    They could start with al franken
     
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    Here's one possibility: the GOP leadership is afraid the yearbook sig is a forgery, and the process will end up making the last man they want in the Senate look like Mr. Smith going to Washington.
     
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    It's already too late for that, many condemned and abandoned the guy without any sort of physical proof of the accusations. (Of course, the very dubious fact of waiting 3 decades before telling the world, in of itself makes it incredibly dubious.) But this is beyond a political smear,now that she fabricated it. She is liable to a class-action lawsuit that'll probably be filed after the Election.

    The only reason Mr. Moore hadn't filed it yet, is that running a campaign is expensive especially with the blow back from donations. But after the campaign, she better be ready to fork up some cash.
     
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    No it doesn't. I can get 30 people to say "This man is "Jesus" and you're going to believe that? Seriously? Only evidence that can be quantified as evidence should be considered. Not hearsay. Be it 5 people, or 10, or 15. Have we forgotten how our system works?
     
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    Why?
     
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    It is”now known”?? Sorry you showed the signature comparisons because that is obviously his.
     
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    And I bet you wonder why women don’t report sexual abuse. It’s men like you that makes it hard..But I bet you believe the young men who accused Kevin Spacey.Women are finally able to be believed because we have experienced The assaults and those who don’t believe us There is strength in numbers and women are aware of this and we finally feel empowered to speak out
     
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    Yes, because evidence, not hearsay is supposed to be admitted. If you do get raped, can you please follow the following steps for me 1: Call the police, 2: Get a rape kit and 3: Please press charges. Right then and there, not a decade later. It's not my fault that women have refused to take their bodies seriously(obviously) when it comes to sexual assault. I was assaulted, and I reported it to my mom right away.

    And please don't give me the traumatized crap. So was I, so traumatized I told my mom what went freaking down. You're either serious about your body, or you're not.
     
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    Forgive me I do not believe that you were raped or sexually abused by a man old enough to be your father. If you were not traumatized then I doubt if it was something serious at all. Sexual abuse victims suffer for years and you would know That. You would also know that they weren’t believed and you illustrated beautifully why women don’t come forward
     
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    “Sexual abuse victims?”

    These old ladies have zero evidence ro back up their claims
     
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