Gloria Allred’s Blunder on Roy Moore’s Yearbook Challenge

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  1. Renee

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    Guess you never heard of circumstantial evidence....If several women tell of a similar experience by the same man and the women do not know each other, that is evidence. Of course you don’t believe women but you do believe a man who admits he has a thing for girls, not women. We just have different values. I hope no woman in your family is ever abused because you would never believe them I am sure. I also like your sexist “old ladies” remark....It shows the trauma that sexual abuse creates. I wonder how you would feel if at 14 A man brought you to his house and made you fondle him sexually and he fondled you sexually. I want to how you would feel if you were afraid to tell anyone because you were afraid you wouldn’t be believed .
     
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    I dont delive in 40 year old circumstantial evidence presented by dried up old prunes with blue hair

    I also like your sexist “old ladies” remark...

    So do I

    Show us a female accuser of roy moore who is under 20 since the accusation is thst he chases young girls
     
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  3. Renee

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    I feel the same way about insecure men with little,hands bashing women who aren’t “girls.”
    perhaps if You educated yourself you would know that he himself admitted he liked teenage girls.
    I wonder how you would feel if some man brought you to his house and made you touch his penis and touched yours and you Kept quiet about it and then years later you find out that he did that to others. That is called empowerment
     
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    When I was younger I had a couple of homo’s try that

    But being a man I managed to fight them off

    This is just more evidence that women do not belong in the military since they cant even defend themselves much less the nation
     
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    I bet you if that man was able to destroy your Future you wouldn’t be such a big shot. And your prejudice doesn’t allow for you to understand that most women do fight off men. As far as the military perhaps we should ban heterosexual men in because they cannot control their urges obviously..(sarcasm alert)
     
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    If he didnt take no for an answer I would beat the **** out of him and find another job
     
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    You could as long as you dont mind condeming future Americans to speaking chinese or russian instead of English
     
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    We don’t need a war to speak Russian, we have trump
     
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    Sure you would...lol
     
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    As a female that might seem impossible to you but men are different
     
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    No authority.
     
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    Well, Moore's Democrat opponent apparently speaks KKK. Is that a problem?

    “But while Jones and the media tout his prosecution of the KKK members, his lesser-known record as a private defense attorney in the 1980s is often overlooked. In one case, he defended Tom Posey, the infamous figure during the Iran-Contra scandal, who had ties with the KKK and Holocaust deniers.

    Posey was a well-known Alabama right-wing extremist activist. In 1983, he founded the Civilian Military Assistance (CMA), a paramilitary group that first provided arms and training to rebels in Nicaragua, but later expanded its activities and gained notoriety in 1986 after holding 15 illegal immigrants at gunpoint after they tried to cross the border from Mexico, the Arizona Republic reported July 8, 1986.”

    “It was no secret in Alabama that the group began as an adjunct to the KKK. United Press International reported in 1986, a year before Jones defended Posey, that the CMA “is trailed by hints of shadowy connections, ranging from the CIA to the Ku Klux Klan, and members have been charged with an assortment of Latin American mischief, including gun running, drug smuggling and assassination plots.”
    NEWSREVOLVER.COM, Alabama Senate hopeful Doug Jones defended man with ties to KKK, Holocaust deniers, By Lukas Mikelionis, November 22, 2017
    https://www.newsrevolver.com/alabam...ended-man-with-ties-to-kkk-holocaust-deniers/
     
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    It would only be irresponsible if the attorney was lying.

    They have evidence, or say they do. Present it or ****.
     
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    What a coincidence that several women came forward who never knew each other and had absolutely nothing to gain by sharing their experience about Moore Who admitted he had a list for young girls .He is a pervert and did some despicable things but yet you will defend a molester. Typical Trump supporter. He said his people would defend him even if he shot someone on Fifth Avenue. But he only molested women
     
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    I'll defend the right of anyone to be innocent until proven guilty. That used to be a good thing.

    How long has Roy Moore been in government and suddenly we have accusers popping up?

    The answer is simple, either they have proof of their allegations, or they have nothing.

    What do they have to gain by complaining 40 years later if it happened? Nothing.

    The answer to what they have to gain by doing it before an election is simple: money.
     
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    Alred could have hired her own expert to authenticate the yearbook inscription. At a minimum she should have done that much.
    Conclusion: she knows that the inscription is such an obvious phony that any expert that looks at it will denounce it.
     
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    The tactic of ignoring all the credible accounts of Moore's obsession with teenage girls and alleging a forged yearbook is a good one.

    It does nothing to discredit the multiple, consistent accounts by folks who have not been shown to be part of a conspiracy or have anything to gain by lying - as does Moore, obviously - but such a distraction, hyping a fanciful allegation, is the best they could come up with.

    Meanwhile, Moore can't even keep his lame story straight:
     
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    Exactly...they have nothing to gain,,,except perhaps closure to a trauma. I agree with you that people are innocent until proven guilty. But that doesn’t stop people from their opinion. Did you believe that OJ Simpson was innocent? Let’s have a hearing for Moore.
    I think it’s kind of silly of you to believe that these sexual encounters have proof, predators perform their debasing in private ..That is exactly why women don’t report them because people like you don’t believe them. But when you have four or five women who had no contact with each other and did not know each other but had similar experiences and had nothing to gain, why would you not believe them? You are exactly the reason women don’t report sexual abuse but when one of the women has the courage to come forward others will as well. This is called circumstantial evidence. Especially the fact that he admits he had a craving for adolescents
     
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    Treasury's department would work also.
     
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    Personally, I would accept anyone with IMPECCABLE credentials (whose conclusions would be accepted by both parties).
     
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    Why would they all come forward 40 years later and a few days after the deadline for the R's to replace Moore in the race ?? Some/all/none of the allegations may be true but the timing stinks.
     
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    If Moore is elected, he will immediately be made a subject of an ethics investigation.

    If EXPULSION is the recommendation of the committee, Moore will either have to resign or force the GOP Senators to vote to expel him.

    Any GOP Senator who votes against expulsion will be toxic in 2018.

    If he is expelled, Alabama gets another reliable GOP Vote in the Senate.

    This is probably the only chance the Dems will ever have to get the seat,.

    The Alabama GOP will probably vote Moore, knowing that he will be expelled (just to keep the seat in GOP hands).
     
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    Republican's that vote to expell him will suffer in 2018. This is no longer about Moore, it's about States rights!
     
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    If the committee recommends expulsion, and the senate then expels, in effect nullifying a free and fair election, there is no reason that the GOP should continue to exist.

    Moore is sitting in the catbird seat and has them by the short hairs.
     
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    No one had asked them to tell their stories previously, apparently. A reporter covering the campaign heard rumors, investigated, tracked down the women, and convinced them to go public.
    Moore's infatuation with teenagers may be in the past, but his lying about it is now. He may have fared better if he had admitted the truth and apologized.
     
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