God of the Paradox Take 2

From this video (It is hilarious).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7jClyinERY

The typically accepted model of God is comprised of nothing more than logical paradoxes.

Omnipotence is a (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) [female dog] as I have explained many times, and will proceed to do so again.

How can a timeless being make decisions without time? Paradox.

How can a spaceless entity remain separate from other objects if there is no space to separate the two? Paradox.

How can a spaceless being retain the unimaginable bytes of information that would be required to know everything? Paradox.

How is such an entity immune to causality and complexity? Paradox.

Why would God require an adversary? Why use the Devil? Satan? Or Lucifer? God is all powerful, all knowing, and all present, the supposed negative forces would have no impact on Him or His will. Such an entity would be aware of all actions made by all parties at all times. Why would such an adversary be necessary? What impact would this adversary have on the deity? Or His will? His Plan? It is nonsensical. Paradox.

God created evil (read your Bible before arguing this!).... but God is supposed to be Omnibenevolent (all good)... yet creates evil. See the Problem of Evil. Paradox.

But, we have a free will. A plan and free will. It is like playing chess with pieces that possess free will. Paradox.

Yet, free will exists in this predetermined plan. Paradox.

How can God be spaceless and timeless and interact with the physical world? In order to interact in the physical world the entity would need to occupy and recognize time. In order to exist in this universe such an entity would need to occupy space and observe time. Paradox.

Feel free to add more.

 

Hilarity is subjective, thus rendering the remainder of what you have stated as subjective also, because you have based all of the remainder on the introductory 'hilarious' aspect that you perceived.

Proof that they are 'logical paradoxes' rests in the subjective nature of the introductory statement of your post. Logic is subjective.

Please show official definitions from an acceptable source dictionary wherein it is stated that Omnipotence is a "[female dog]".

That "timeless being" would not be subject to the rudiments of that which the 'timeless being' created. The creator is not subject to that which is created.

A "spaceless entity" (odd word considering that it is no recognized word) would not be subject to that which the 'spaceless entity' created.

A "spaceless being" would not be subject to that which the 'spaceless being' created.

Such an entity would be immune to causality and complexity because such an entity (a creator) cannot be subject to that which is the created.

Where is such a "requirement" published?

Because it was 'desired' by such an entity that created the "Devil", "Satan, or "Lucifer".

OK.

OK.

Because such an adversary was desired.

None, other than what the 'deity' allowed.

None, other than what the deity allowed.

Your opinion.

Just because 'evil' was created, does not mandate the use of such 'evil'. Subsequently there is no problem with evil until 'evil' is put to use.

OK.

OK.

If you believe that to be true, then that is your prerogative.

OK.

Because God planned things that way.

Occupying and recognizing does not imply a requirement of being subject to.

You have designated this entity as being 'timeless' and 'spaceless' therefore, being timeless and spaceless, the entity would not be required to 'observe' (presuming you mean obey) the man-made laws relating to space and time.

Why?

 

I stopped reading after the semantical nonsense found in the first line.

Do you ever have anything meaningful to contribute? Or simply word games?

 

Oh the poor little wolfie can't deal with the science of semantics..... Of course, he should have already realized that science is a many faceted tool... to be used by everyone... and unfortunately for wolfie, semantics is one of those facets that is used by anyone and everyone who is hoping to communicate with others. Yet wolfie thinks that semantics is 'nonsense'... probably because he might not have prepared himself to deal with such encounters.

 

Why should he or anyone else? Its just stupid games being played. Grow up.

 

Why should anyone else *what*? Where are games being played? Grow up... excuse me... but I am 63 years of age... have retired after 40+ years of work.. having raised 4 children and assisted in raising 8 grandchildren... Now who really needs to 'grow up'?

 

That would explain the nonsense found in your posts.

 

Are you afraid to answer the questions? That would be a sign of cowardice.

 

People dont answer stupid questions for obvious reasons. Well obvious to most.

 

What reasons? You saying that they are obvious, but they are not obvious. If they were obvious then I would not have asked the questions in the first place. IMHO, the obvious reason that you are not answering the questions is that you are filled with fear of the question, else you don't know the answer to the questions.

 

So now you are engaging in self-portraiture?

 

So now you are engaging in self-portraiture?

 

Thank God you did not reply to Inc point for point. I was ready to dump the thread if it turned into one of those.

 

I think religious people mostly just want to be a part of their group and are less concerned with whether or not any of it is real. The only reason they argue that their beliefs are true is because paranoia about the stuff not being real is built into the religion. Each individual Christian knows in his heart that the magical nonsense can't be true, and it is that knowledge which inspires the obsession with "belief" seen in Christianity. Their whole goal ultimately reduces not to doing good things, but just freaking forcing themselves to believe the bs. It's like the religion never matured much farther beyond just getting people to go along with it. That's why it's all about belief and the details are left up to interpretation, instituting a lack of structure in the development of the theology, which results in the absurdities and paradoxes we find.

 

Also, how is a mind supposed to exist without a brain? The concept of spirits came naturally to primitive humans who were (and still are) natural dualists, perceiving the mind as something inherently separate from the body, but it doesn't hold up under scientific scrutiny today. A sceptic cannot accept the existence of spirits given the dearth of objective evidence + the human capacity for perceiving and believing in phantoms.

I mean, does anyone think that schizophrenics are demon-possessed? Faithheads would have a very easy way to demonstrate their gods' powers right there if it were so..

 

If you press them about the absurdity of their beliefs, they'll often appeal to the perceived goods of (their) religion for society at large, arguing desperately that society would fall apart without it..

 

A refusal to make a rebuttal, point for point, creates an acquiescence to those points not rebutted. Yes! I am glad also that he did not make a point for point rebuttal... that means that he has acquiesced to the majority of what I had stated.

 

That's what creationists would like to think when Richard Dawkins refuses to 'debate' them as well.

 

Yep, so that's another victory for you. Good job.

 

Which proves my point, that all of the nonsense being injected into this religious forum by those that are opposed to religion and or opposed to God or gods, cannot over power the spirit of God. Thanks for the admission.

 

That's true. I feel the Holy Spirit tugging at my heart right now just from reading your posts. What power!

 

Well, that is nice to know, but how do you know it is the Holy Spirit tugging at your heart?

 

Hm. I guess I never thought of that. I guess I don't know. Wow. I guess all of that Holy Spirit stuff could just as easily be a complete fraud and I'd never know the difference.

Thank you so much, Inc, you have opened my eyes. Say a prayer to remove this demon masquerading as the Holy Spirit from my heart. TIA.

 

You are quite welcome, and I will be vigilant in my prayers for your recovery.