Graecopithecus freybergi: Oldest Hominin Lived in Europe, not Africa

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  1. afganitia

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    They weren't. They did have a bigger brain, but they were in reality more stupid, as their brain was simpler and less evolved (let's say this without entering in details).
     
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    Europe did nothing extraordinary until 1500. This was not a biological issue, but a political one.
     
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    https://www.inverse.com/article/129...e-they-were-smart-sad-and-alone-just-like-you
     
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    From the ultra-right wing, white supremacist LA times.

    http://www.latimes.com/science/scie...als-smarter-than-we-think-20140501-story.html
     
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    Unfortunately, this is false. Let me explain it to you. Size it is not related to intelligence. Naturally it is a factor, and a brain can be handicapped by size. However, just because an elephant has a big brain isn't smarter than a human. There are a fair share of brains bigger than humans in the world. What does diferenciate our brains to theirs, (and Neanderthals to ours) are the neural sinapsis. There are basically 8 important related genes regarding that. and some of them are different between us and them. And unfortunately for Neanderthals, our synaptic neural connections allows us to do together they were not. So, no, they weren't more intelligent than us. The opposite: we were more intelligent.

    Edit: intelligence is a very difficult concept to define. While neandertals had some abilities we didn't have, they have critical flaws which propelled them to extinction. So, we can safely assume that our intellectual advantages outstripped our disadvantages against them.
     
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    Strawman fail. I never said a larger brain automatically gave them more intelligence. I said that Neaderthals had a larger brain, and were more intelligent.

    Although I'm confident in your genius, I'll trust the research presented in the two articles I cited over your unsubstantiated say-so.

    And no, we can't "assume" that just because one group won out in the end. Unintelligent people tend to have more children than intelligent people in the modern world, that doesn't make unintelligent people smarter.

    Homo Sapiens more numerous, for one thing, and had a wider span. There are likely a multitude of reasons not related to intelligence on why they outcompeted the Neanderthal.
     
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    http://www.ibtimes.com/neanderthal-...-multiple-breeding-events-studies-say-1822230

    Asians have more Neanderthal DNA than Euros.

    :)
     
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    Not nearly as disturbing as inbred rednecks with esteem and competency issues fellating Himmler's ghost in a pathetic attempt to feel superior to something - anything - though. Next thing we know, you'll be citing phrenology studies... [​IMG]
     
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    Nazis weren't "inbred rednecks." They were highly educated and intelligent Europeans. You've got your Marxist talking points mixed up. Maybe if you tried again using phrases that teenage girls use (you're good at that) your comment would make more sense. You'd be more in your element.
     
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    No, they weren't. The modern, 'Murican wannabes, however... [​IMG]

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    You seem to be really slow on the uptake. Maybe you should take an ancestry test. There doesn't seem to be as much of that good ole big-brained Homo neanderthalensis DNA present as you might wish. Maybe a little homo habilis in the mix? [​IMG]
     
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    I doubt they are less intelligent than some members of the most loyal Democratic group

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    Already did.

    More Neanderthal than 80% of the population tested.

    >>>MOD EDIT Flamebait Removed<<<
     
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    On the contrary, they were barbaric bigoted idiots.

    Unsophisticated morons. Their lack of scientific understanding & ethics was only matched by their poor hygene.
     
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    Ashkenazi Jews on average have less Neanderthal DNA than western Euroepans.

    and yet they on average, have a higher IQ than western Europeans.

    explain that one, bro.
     
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    Lol...According to homer, the jews and muslims are the root of all evil in the world, but I guess that putting the blacks in their place is even more important.
    Irrational prejudices follow all the logic of a brain fart.
     
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    This explains why studies show that white supremacists share 99.999% of the DNA of primordial pond scum. Virtually no difference.
     
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    Yet many of their scientific discoveries, medical research, and inventions are used throughout the world today.
     
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    Source?

    These are decent theories

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi_Jewish_intelligence

    Here's a question though, why are you allowed to brag about your group's supposed intelligence advantage over Europeans, but Europeans can't do the same over blacks, for example? Is it just another double standard?
     
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    Could turn out to be true. But a lower jaw and tooth is pretty thin, compared to the mountains of hominid fossils from Africa. It's interesting, but far from conclusive.

    And then there is the fact that it could also simply reflect holes in the fossil record -- we may find an even older specimen in Africa tomorrow.

    Avoid jumping to conclusions, and let the evidence lead where it may.
     
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    I did not know that Homer said Jews and Muslims were the source of all evil in the world. Especially since Homer, if he existed, was writing around 850 BC, while Mohammed, the first Muslim, was born around 571 AD.

    I'd say someone here has been getting their history from the wrong Homer - Homer Simpson.
     
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    LMAO, u would much rather claim to have come from an ape than admit that studying DNA all human life is traced back to the black woman.
     
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    Once again - embarrassingly slow on the uptake... [​IMG]

    Or, to quote Jeff Foxworthy (I figured I'd use a source you could relate to): If you mix stagnant pond water with raw sewage, you're not getting Evian. [​IMG]
     
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