Graphic video shows Daniel Shaver sobbing and begging officer for his life before 2016 shooting

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  1. Deltaboy

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    Folks down the road in Granbury Texas are Upset over this court case.
     
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    Pure conjecture and nonsense.

    Who here is talking about violent felons?

    Way to deflect....

    This conversation is about innocent people being shot by cops that perceive a threat where there is none. THAT is the problem.

    And I don't need to be up to bad behavior to fear that. Working downtown in a major city it crosses my mind sometimes. If I may, walking from work or to, for the description Of someone that may be a suspect for something, just because of the sweatshirt I'm wearing. It's happened....

    If you don't fear cops that's fine. If you want to stick your head in the sand and use the often regurgitated "don't do anything illegal BS," you don't belong here. You have nothing useful to add.

    I for one think an innocent person killed by a pea-brained steroid with a badge is one too many. They shouldn't be given a pass.

    Above most maybe, straw man, half-***ed arguments like yours should be squashed.

    A person is dead. One that didn't commit a crime, by someone who is supposed to protect. The world is not as black and white as the fairytales you clearly seem to still believe.
     
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    So there were 963 fatal police shootings in 2016.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/national/police-shootings-2016/

    How many of those people were "just minding their own business" and were in no way posing a threat when they were shot for no good reason?

    In Chicago alone, how many people have been murdered in 2016?
    Chicago marked 2016 as the deadliest year in nearly two decades, data released by the Chicago Police Department shows. The city saw a surge in gun violence in 2016: 762 murders, 3,550 shooting incidents, and 4,331 shooting victims, according to a statement released by the department on Sunday.Jan 2, 2017

    The story should be: no wonder cops are so on edge! It's long past time Liberal Democrat start to clean up the gangs and violence in their worst urban hellholes.
     
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    this guy committed no crimes, he did not even have a real gun, but he did have a right to have a real gun

    someone saw him with what they thought was a gun and reported him...do you think cops should treat gun owners as a threat and treat them all like this?

    this cop could of handled this so much better... this wasn't even in the ballpark of how a good cop would handle it

    and in hindsight, the young man had every reason to fear this cop was as crazy as he sounded
     
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    Again with the deflection!!

    Stop it with this off topic nonsense. This cop had the suspect ON THE GROUND. He DID NOT cuff him, instead giving him bizarre instructions. In what world should a cop ever ask someone to get up after laying down when at gunpoint?

    Total BS. Innocent people and people IN GENERAL deserve the benefit of the doubt until proven a threat, regardless of statistics.

    And a thing about statistics... your numbers are horse manure. Raw numbers have no value in analysis without reference. It's reported like that to get the shock factor "WOW THATS A LOT!" But its worthless. Proportionalities and trends matter.

    Cops have a dangerous job. It doesn't give them a right to execute someone because they are non-compliant to bizarre commands.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    to start with the cop intentionally escalated that situation
    be like screaming at a dog and then being mad cause it was so scared it peeed and shooting it
     
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    BEAUTIFUL! I do agree. The public in this country is willfully brainwashed which is tied directly to the pervasive paranoia in country which stems from knowing of wrongs done. This is where all paranoia comes from. For instance, when a local drug dealer is unfamiliar with a new "client", he or she automatically thinks the new druggie is a cop or po-lice. the doing of wrong and the knowing of wrongs done is/are the mother and father of paranoia. Russians are far less brainwashed than Americans and this is a known FACT.
     
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    Do the fourteen year old and the forty year old have similar names? Did the information or tip that the police were working from, come from a CI (bad intel)?
     
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    This is just for those who care for their own life and want to keep it: Don't ever play with a firearm, or even something that looks like a firearm. Just don't do it.

    Just sayin' for those who like living.
     
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    Many police agents are in fact domestic terrorists. If you keep track, many new officers come from nation that have routine repression and violations of rights, be said rights natural or government granted.
     
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    No work is dangerous or violent unless you make it dangerous and violent. Besides, if it is the nature of the job and you do not think you are able to handle the environment, simply quit and find another job.
     
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    What about 2A? Do that not count for anything?
     
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    Read the Article for Christ's sacred Sake !
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    ames, pictures, circumstances - all provided

    Cops Hold 11yo Black Girl at Gunpoint, Cuff & Arrest Her
    —While Looking for 40yo White Woman

    Lucky Girl - She just had to walk backwards with a gun to her head
    & didn't have to cross her legs and crawl with the hands in the air

    http://thefreethoughtproject.com/police-mistake-11yo-black-girl-40yo-white-woman-detain-handcuff/
     
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    I'm just sayin' if you care for your life -- ultimate reality beyond mere words -- circumspect survival.
     
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    A few years back? So all your regular police are all trained in military tactics? You don't think that military training has an affect on how they treat the public? I would think for the amount of times you'd need the firepower of a tactical squad you'd only need one for a county or metropolitan area. A few years ago there were an alarming number of uses of tactical squads around the Baltimore metro area. No knock warrants with tactical teams were being criticized by a lot of people. Newspapers printed cartoons of tactical squads shooting paper targets of dogs since no matter how much of a threat, all dogs in a house are hunted down and killed by these squads. Some uses were based on no more than a tip. Some went to the wrong address. One bashed into the home of a local mayor, killed his dogs, and put their boot on grandma's neck as she lay on the floor. But they got your crazy guy so all is well.
     
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    I'm not going to be so silly and prejudiced that I get worked up over a few bad shootings by cops. However, if you participate in the thug life and culture, then your are going to have a greater chance of being stopped by the police.
     
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    Soldiering is most often very violent work once training is done and first orders to the field are received.
     
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    Still More Stupid Games stupid pigs play #5

    Sow Pig forced to use pepper spray in thugs face, as she no doubt feared for her life :eekeyes:
    Citizens Claim “Torture” in Response to Horrifying Police Footage

     
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    Redneck idiot pointing or waving a gun, too. If you pick up blued iron in your hand handle it like a man, not an idiot.
     
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    If you are so enraged by this one particular instance of a cop wrongly killing an innocent suspect, then I'd suggest you form a mob and burn down the city where it happened.

    INNOCENT people who are calmly going about their day and not resisting arrest don't deserve to get shot by the police, and only in the most rare cases does that happen.
     
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    It also helps NOT to behave Black! :hmm:
     
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    The same principle applies; if you cannot handle the environment, either quit or do not join.
     
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    Most blacks are perfect gentlemen. But you don't hear about them or see them in the news because they never do anything wrong.
     
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    Greataxe, that is nice to believe but far from reality. Some in this country do not have the luxury of a placid existence.
     

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