Gun homicide rates

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  1. Russell Hellein

    Russell Hellein Well-Known Member

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    St Louis. wow. 60 per 100K. great job, boys and girls. take a bow...you're more deadly than Barquisimeto and Cumana Venezuela.

    Socialist utopia, Caracas Venezuela....now them folks know how to get it done. 130 per 100K
     
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    What that chart doesn't tell is that even though the mass shootings get the headlines, blacks and hispanics in America commit the vast majority of gun homicides and skew the rate for the US.
     
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    Russell Hellein Well-Known Member

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    Its difficult to get at white non-hispanic statistics because whites are commonly combined with Hispanics. White's commit the majority of murders in the US and most of the violent crime. When you factor out poverty the numbers would be a lot more comparable because minorities are poorer and poverty is associated with violent crime.

    http://www.politifact.com/punditfac...y-kohn-white-men-69-percent-arrested-violent/
     
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    It seems to matter to you what color is the person killing you
     
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    Russell Hellein Well-Known Member

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    Blacks primarily attack blacks and whites attack whites. Which is another way of saying housing is segregated in the US since most murders are by acquaintances
     
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    FYI trolling Wikipedia for skewed data to bore us with yet another baseless leftist gun control thread does not meet the guidelines for creating a thread in this section of the forums. This is Current Events. IE news.

    Maybe Opinions and Beliefs next time or the gun control section for musings of Wikipedia. Don't worry it's leftist so no one of import cares.

    Since I am here I also would suggest not completely swallowing the hook that biased non objective completely partisan studies and graphs tell you. /Yawns.

    Here is a study based on facts on the very serious issue of homicide rates. It's pretty well done and it's based on data not hysterics. Worth a read.

    In the U.S. Blacks are 1/7th the population, but over 1/2 of all our murders, and Latino’s are about the same 15% of the population and are responsible for over half the rest of murders.England has virtually no blacks or latino’s (<3%). So if we correct for those demographic differences (or just compare a subset — the U.S.’s white murder rate to the UK’s white murder rate), we find that in the bright red trend line, that the U.S. has a lower murder rate than the U.K.

    /twiddles thumbs thoughtfully. Mhm. It's remarkable isn't it

    http://igeek.com/w/U.S._vs_U.K._-_Crime/Murder
     
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    Clearly there's something else going on. Countries like New Zealand and the Czech Republic with relatively permissive gun laws don't have anything near the problem with violence and mass shootings.

    Despite legal (albeit licensed) AR15s, New Zealand hasn't had a large mass shooting since 1990. The Czech Republic even has concealed carry with a permit.
     
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    What do we have that they don't?

    Large minority population?

    A culture that places blame for every slight on White males?

    Hmmmmm.
     
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    The obvious question of "so what?" must be asked with regard to the above? What ultimate, meaningful difference does such make?
     
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    That is merely a bromide, since most people attacking others are what they are.

    There is no choice in the matter.

    No option bubble pops up;

    Press 1 now if you are pleased with your muggers Race.
    Press 2 now for more Race options.
    Press 3 now for more weapons options.
    Press now 4 if you need cash for your mugger.
    Press now 5 if you prefer to run rather than pay.
     
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    The Japanese make up for it in suicide rates. Their suicide rate is higher than our combined murder/suicide rate.
     
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    What % of guns in the US are involved in a murder? <0.00278%
    What % of guns in the UK are involved in a murder?
    What % of guns in Germany are involved in a murder?
     
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    Sixty times the UK gun homicide rate, but only 4.5 times their total homicide rate (down from ten times for most of the 20th century). It's no wonder that the UK government doesn't want their folks to have guns, or kitchen knives. They seem to be quite violent without guns.
     

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