~ The way this country is going with lunatic political policy being proposed to take us down the road to Communist China I now believe in NO restriction for U.S. citizens to own and carry a firearm. The only requirements that may be necessary would be for CCW - and even that I now hesitate to support . Bad people who want to hurt and threaten the innocent will never comply with laws and restrictions and will never be held accountable . Neither should law-abiding citizens.
When I took the CHL course it was more about how to follow the law. What I could do and what I couldn't do. And I think that's important. But should it be optional? People can figure this out for themselves or pay people to teach them.
Oh I see. I wipe my carry ammo down with a gun cleaning cloth to give them a light coat of oil before I load my mag and rotate my carry ammo. I clean my firearms weekly, and none of them go longer than a month. Well, if I hadn't lost all of them in a boating accident.
If you ever recover then from that boating accident and you go months without firing them, look into Birchwood Casey barricade. It is a fantastic water repellent light oil that is silicone based. When I carried a gun for work in the rain it protected my guns. I use that even on my knives that aren't stainless.
Yeah. I bought these fast rack things for my rifles. It's like a chamber flag but it's metal with a handle. That way I can look at the firearm and know it's not loaded, but that can change real fast if it needs to. For handguns any time they're picked up the slide gets locked back and the mag dropped. They go to the range with chamber flags and no mags in. Well, except for the locked and loaded one(s) in my holster(s). If I still owned firearms that is.
Luckily I live in a fairly non-humid environment. I spent way too much of my life being amphibious and living in places like TN, GA, NC, SC...and Japan. Holy crap the humidity in Japan is a killer. I've had enough of that nonsense.
An this recommendation would do what in the grand scheme? Most lives lost to guns are not because of some failure in training or with gun safety protocol; they are the result of deliberate action that achieving a arbitrary test of marksmanship, understanding of gun safety, or understanding the law would mean nothing. I teach classes in all those areas as well as a broad range of other life survival skills, and do so on an unsolicited on going basis to those around me (also continually work to increase my knowledge and skills) and would always suggest accumulating experience and knowledge is in itself the essential survival skill, however, you can’t force people to learn and expect they will not deliberately do wrong. If you want to use a tool, the burden is yours to learn how to safely, efficiently and effectively use it; your responsibility... your accountability for the consequences of your actions. An analogy I often use is think about a chain saw. No prohibitions. Get one. Then don’t learn how to use one and wonder on the risk of using one. Or... even a ladder. Lol.
When you live by the motto "Pain is weakness leaving the body" for a long time, you reach a point where you just want to be comfortable for a while. Maybe it's just old age
Your firearm instructor did a shitty job on your training. There aren't 3 rules, there are 4, and not a single one of them says anything about keeping your sidearm unloaded until the bad guy is already in your face. Or home. Google is your friend, perhaps before you spout off on a topic like you actually know something about it you should do a little research first.
Well, he did clarify. Confused me too for a second. #1 is very close to the missing one. If you follow #1 you're kinda following the other one anyway. The gun is always loaded is pretty much like #3.
No, it's not. Treating a gun as if it's always loaded is NOT the same as keep it unloaded until you need to shoot someone. The first prevents you from killing your buddy because "Well, I THOUGHT it was unloaded!". The other gets you dead because time and adrenaline conspire against you in a true life or death situation. In that scenario, you might forget it's unloaded. Hell, you might not remember HOW to load it fast enough even if you remember that it needs it. And the time involved to **** and lock even if you manage to overcome those obstacles might prove deadly all by itself.
No it's not. If the gun is always loaded in your mind, you'd never think it was unloaded nor would you point it in an unsafe direction. My firearm is only "unloaded" when my fast rack is in for a rifle, or when the slide is back and the mag is dropped AND I looked in the chamber. Otherwise, I know it's loaded, because I racked the **** out of it to make sure it was loaded. It worked well enough in the desert for me.
Luckily the cold doesn't bother me. My favorite place is in among gigantic snow covered pines. I get great warm summers to thaw out too, but no humidity, no sir.
none of the three rules I mentioned said anything about that either. Room number 3 keep your gun unloaded till you're ready to use it not fire it. That's rule number two and you should keep your finger off the trigger until you're ready to fire it. if I meant in real number 3 keep it unloaded until you're ready to fire it that's what I would have said. But if you're carrying it or you have it in a place where you can pick it up should an incident arise what do you need you're using it. You just start firing it. As far as your four rules go that's cool. Three rules are plenty. Perhaps before responding to somebody you should read and understand what they're saying. Notably the difference between firing and using. I understand it's a little confusing and it cleared up for a few other posters.
but yeah I'm keeping it unloaded until you're ready to shoot somebody is moronic that's why I didn't say that. I've loaded many guns I've never shot anybody. If you pick up your pistol and put it in your holster to carry it that's when you should load it when you take it out and put it in your safe since you stopped using it you should unload it. If you go away for a few days on a business trip you should unload your bedside shotgun cuz you can't pick it up and shoot somebody with it if you're not in your house and the gun is. You are continuing to argue against your strawman. Not anything anyone else said. I didn't say keep your gun unloaded until you're ready to fire it. I didn't say that on purpose because I didn't mean that. And you acting like that's what I meant and you arguing against something you made up and falsely attributed to me is of no value to anyone. yes your sidearm should be loaded while you're carrying it when you take it out to clean it you should f****** unload it. If you take it out to put it in a safe because you don't need it for a couple days you should unload it.
Treating a gun as though it's loaded is a good idea especially when handling a lot of guns. I think you're right this plays to rule number one keep the gun pointed in a safe direction. I didn't specify whether it was loaded or not. if you always pointed in a safe direction you don't ever have to worry about accidentally killing somebody or shooting something you didn't want to shoot. Rule number two also plays into treating a gun like it's always loaded. If you don't put your finger on the trigger it doesn't matter if it's loaded or not. It's not going to be fired until you're ready to fire it. Which is why the rule of treating a gun as though it's always loaded wasn't mentioned. It's redundant I bet I can think of 30 different rules possibly even thousands. but some people think the way they're trained is the only way there is and everyone else is wrong. I've taught gun safety to people for quite some time and a lot of people are curious why I never mentioned safety devices on guns. it's because I don't think you should rely on that. Safety is a mechanical device and mechanical devices fail. I've had people fuss and carry on with me about that. It's really redundant if you're following the three rules that's your best safety.
~ Yes indeed. Now for folks like me who keep a pistol in the home for self-defense I would never take it out unless necessary - with safety off and finger on trigger. At the shooting range always unloaded and finger on the guard until I level off at the target. One is hostile situation - the other is friendly.
Well the main idea is you can't pull the trigger if your finger isn't on it. I have so many guns that don't have safety mechanisms that require you to actually turn them on or off, I don't even acknowledge it. I'm not saying you're wrong older than I am right for that it's just not something I would depend on.
Safety training could be reasonable, but it would not be constitutional. It'd be like requiring a sensitivity class before being allowed to speak in public. I support teaching gun safety in school, along with power tool safety, chemical safety, germ safety, wildlife safety... life is dangerous and knowledge is power. Requiring marksmanship would be neither constitutional nor reasonable. Even people who can't shoot straight have the right to access to weapons they can try to defend themselves with, and even highly trained professional marksman can miss. And, as always, criminals will continue arming themselves regardless.
That's the funny thing though. Does the left look at it as government offering a service to gun owners via free training in firearms to make everyone safer? Nope. They're not interested in that. They're only interested in the mandatory part to get you to register your firearm. If it's not mandatory, then they don't want it. Which means they really don't want it as a program to increase safe handling and usage of firearms, they just want government controlled prerequisites as a form of control.
