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Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by 1up2down, Jan 5, 2016.

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  1. 1up2down

    1up2down New Member

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    so with this new executive action in place. What happens if a gun owner gives away a gun as a present? Since its not a business function and there is no profit where does it stand? Seems like a grey area. Guess you wouldn't need to do a background check as your not dealing.

    any thoughts?
     
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    Alucard New Member Past Donor

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    This area, unfortunately, could present a loophole.
     
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  3. My Fing ID

    My Fing ID Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We could make it a crime for felons to own firearms and for people to knowingly furnish felons with firearms. Seems like an easy way to close that loophole and not burden the 99.9%+ who are not criminals.
     
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    bois darc chunk Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This has nothing to do with what Obama said today. The regulations already exist to answer your question. It depends on whether the gun gift is a new gun or one that you've previously owned and whether or not they live in the same state. If they live in a different state, it's important to know if the gun is legal in that state, as that varies from state to state. This is from the ATF website:

     
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  5. ArmySoldier

    ArmySoldier Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sure. My grandfather passed down many guns to our family members.
     
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    Penrod Well-Known Member

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    I used to go to my Grandfathers farm in Pennsylvania . He would lend me a rifle to go shoot with my uncle. Is lending a retaliative a gun now going to be a crime?
     
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    Well, how can you define someone as a gun dealer, if they aren't selling guns? It's not a loophole, it's just logic.

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    Well, we already have a law that does the above.
     
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    Nancy Lanza bought guns for her crazy son, Adam … That worked out REAL well for everybody ...
     
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    You betcha.

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    Those days are gone of leaving gun collections to family after death.
     
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  10. Teilhard

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    A "gun collection" in a family is too often a CAUSE of death …

    Again: think: Nancy and Adam Lanza ...
     
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    Well you have ONE time.
    And at what point does any of that trump my 2A rights? Never.
    Maybe you would like to define mental illness for us doctor.
     
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    How many gun deaths annually in America due to "domestic violence" … ??? suicide … ??? accident (kid shooting another kid) … ???
    hint: it's more than one …

    No, I'm not an M.D. … but I am a trained experienced Mental Health Professional (in locked hospital ward; super max prison; community agency; nursing home) …
    What do you want to know … ???
     
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  13. My Fing ID

    My Fing ID Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Now think of the other 100,000,000 gun owners who didn't do anything wrong. It's a non-issue, it's just made one by the left so they have a device to attack the right and gain ignorant voters who are scared of guns.
     
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  14. Teilhard

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    Thank you for the straw man attempt …

    I happen to be a (responsible) gun owner … but NOT a "gun nut" who wants NO restrictions and controls ...
     
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    Please elaborate on what makes you a (responsible) gun owner. Guns in safe, guns broken down, ammo and guns stored separately, handguns, long guns, shotguns, no 'evil assault' weapons.

    Got a real nice Springfield XD/M 9mm for Christmas courtesy of Mrs. Claus another responsible gun owner and God bless her, course I had to do the background check but what the heck, for the gift under the tree.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nothing. You can give a gift but if you are giving to uncle Harry and you know he is a felon, you might have a problem.

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    Obama would be better off enforcing all the current regulations instead of politically masturbating on stage for us.
     
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    nra37922 Well-Known Member

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    Plot for "A Dickheads Family Christmas'"a film by Michael Moore
     
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    Counts as a transfer. It's covered by the new regs.
     
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  19. Hoosier8

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    [​IMG]
     
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  20. nra37922

    nra37922 Well-Known Member

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    Check Snoopes on this please...
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nah, what is true is that very few felons are ever prosecuted for trying to buy firearms. They got better things to do.
     
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    I believe you have your facts wrong there. The guns were hers, her son murdered her as she slept then stole her guns. He broke several laws that tragic day. Just going to show that criminals don't care about laws.
     
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    Nancy Lanza was a gun nut who indeed bought guns specifically for her crazy son and made sure he knew how to use them ...
     
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    It shows you that Nancy Lanza -- while POSSIBLY following the letters of the gun laws -- was a gun nut who made stupid fatal internal family mistakes by making guns and ammo available to her crazy son … Yes, she did that ...
     
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    Have a question for you. Would you support a law that made it a felony for the gun owner if the gun owner had a gun stolen?
     
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