Half of Americans say Trump is victim of a 'witch hunt' as trust in Mueller erodes

Your post makes no sense. You might as well say: "So if the economy is OK then trees are birds, right?"

 

Pipe dream.

 

I think you're confused, zorro.

 

I'm remarkably free of confusion, basking in the afterglow of Dirty Bob Mueller's humiliation.

OUR COCKTAIL THIS WEEKEND IS THE MUELLER REPORT: It costs millions to make, takes two years to be served. Rumors and expectations about it are stoked to fever pitch. Arrives as an empty glass. Every news source claims it’s the finest Russian Vodka. Rachel Maddow most affected.

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/325372/

 

National Inquirer? The Onion is even more valid than it.

 

Remember When The Fake News Media Predicted Trump Family Leaving White House in HANDCUFFS?

Good Times!

 

I want to see all the evidence Adam Schiff and Eric Swalwell said they had on Trump that guaranteed he colluded with Russia. I want to see Barr asking them these questions in a private room with the FBI present and on the record. If they lied, impeach them and indict them. They intentionally spread false reports.

 

While they sound good on the surface, slightly inaccurate statements are most important in these legal matters.

The exact quote from Rosenstein's letter of appointment is:

"........in order to discharge my responsibility to provide supervision and management of the Department of Justice, and to ensure a full and thorough investigation of the Russian government's efforts to interfere in the 2016 presidential election, I hereby order........"​

Your quote is close, but not accurate. It also incorrectly implies that this is the mandate given to Mueller when in actuality it was a statement by Rosenstein of what his own obligations are. The actual mandate says,

"(b) The Special Counsel is authorized to conduct the investigation confirmed by then-FBI Director James B. Corney in testimony before the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence on March 20, 2017, including:"​

Since the law, US Code 28 - 600, says,

"The Special Counsel will be provided with a specific factual statement of the matter to be investigated."​

Rosenstein's authorization is legally deficient because 'investigate all that stuff that was discussed at this congressional testimony or that meeting' is not a specific factual statement as the law requires. Following the including from the general deficient mandate is:

"(i)any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump; and..."​

This is specific enough to make it legal. Its problem -- and if there are problems with following the letter of the law then those problems are illegal -- is that it does not describe a crime. The law says,

".......will appoint a Special Counsel when he or she determines that criminal investigation of a person or matter is warranted and......" [emphasis mine]​

All of this is what makes Mueller's authorization deficient in the face of the law, which pretty much makes it illegal. There is nothing illegal per se with having "links and/or coordination" between a campaign and a foreign government.

But NONE directly from the mandate even considering its looseness.

"Pretending" is a charge too far... and wrong. When in doubt read the law:

"(b)Additional jurisdiction. If in the course of his or her investigation the Special Counsel concludes that additional jurisdiction beyond that specified in his or her original jurisdiction is necessary in order to fully investigate and resolve the matters assigned, or to investigate new matters that come to light in the course of his or her investigation, he or she shall consult with the Attorney General, who will determine whether to include the additional matters within the Special Counsel's jurisdiction or assign them elsewhere." [emphasis mine]​

Mueller cannot legally pursue or refer other matters without specific and explicit authorization from the Attorney General. If there are other independent investigations, so be it.

 

Speaking of pipe dreams.

This guy is the ghost writer of Trump's Art of the Deal, and he's a massive pile of Trump butthurt. I love this guy.

https://twitter.com/tonyschwartz







He went real quiet on Friday though. I can't imagine why.

 

Deflect! Deflect! Deflect! I never claimed Cohen is a "victim." He is an admitted criminal over crimes he committed that had zero connection with Trump in any way. He also pleaded guilty to a non-crime -- that is what I said -- that was thrown on his trial pile. I never ever said "no indictment = completely innocent." You just made that up out of whole cloth.

 

Speaking of beating a dead horse. Russia and Trump were not even on the radar when Hillary first complained of a right wing conspiracy back in 1992.

 

That's "vast, right wing conspiracy" and Tammy Wynette.

 

Neither the Trump regime, nor anyone of sound mind and able to demonstrate an interest in filing such a suit, has ever contested the legality of the appointment via the legal recourses available.

A sprightly exegesis:

https://www.factcheck.org/2018/06/was-muellers-appointment-unconstitutional/

Any pretense that the appointment of the Special Counsel by the Trump Justice Department's acting Attorney General was illegal has not been validated by any legal authority.

Just as one might fantasize that Trump is actually a communist Muslim born in Hawaii, such notions can be entertained privately, but are of no merit it the realm of reality.

 

It's all over now and all authority as to disclosure rests in applicable laws and regulations, and in the hands of the attorney general.

 

Actually it seems to be almost a daily occurrence.

 

I'd say a strong economy with real wage growth, record unemployment, and a nation less likely to trust the Democrat party and the MSM is a good thing.

But thats me.

 

What Rosenstein says in a press release has no bearing on the legality of appointing a special prosecutor, though I saw nothing in his press release that contradicted anything I said. Second, that nobody challenges or successfully challenges Mueller's appointment doesn't mean that is is none the less illegal. Thirdly your reference is charging the unconstitutionality of Mueller's appointment, not the illegality per US Code 28, and I haven't raised that issue. However, that issue is not quite as clear cut, but there is a constitutional issue with Mueller's appointment. That is whether his appointment as a principal officer must be confirmed by a senate vote. The referenced case, Morrison v. Olson, is not applicable because that was about an inferior officer that does not require confirmation, though the defendants scream to high heaven that it proves their case. The debate is whether Mueller is a principal officer with the independence and authority of, say, a US Attorney. The difficulty here is US Code 28 states that a Special Counsel does have the power and authority of a US Attorney.

I think Mueller's appointment was unconstitutional but that is arguable. That his appointment and operation is a clear violation of US Code 28 is without legal question. But that cat is out of the bag and there is little that can be rectified. But that has no bearing on whether this witch hunt is illegal.

 

Thats what you claimed. “At 3.1% he is unimpeachable”.

 

And WTF is this “zero connection to Trump”. C’mon Rod, he lied his arse off to cover Turmp, and when Trump threw him under the bus, Cohen started to cooperate.

Who “deflecting” ? You can’t plead guilty to a “non-crime”. WTF does that even mean ? He lied to investigators, THATS A CRIME. And to this day we do not know exactly what he lied about, just that he lied. You guys keep saying that because Mueller didn’t indict Trump that this is over, yet nobody has seen the report !

Trump has been loosing his everloving mind since early last week on twitter because he knew the report was about done. Please understand that this in no way exonerate anyone. This report is only the investigative side. The information n the report is passed to legal side of the house read: The AG, who can decide what action takes place next. Remember, Donald Trump was never interviewed...hmmmmmmm

 

As noted, you can entertain that notion despite no one ever asserting such a charge where it might matter.

 

Cohen was tried and found guilty of three crimes related to fraudulent business and banking activity, tax evasion, and lying to Congress. None of the three had even a hint of any involvement with Trump and the prosecutors never claimed any Trump connection, other than some of his lying to Congress related to work he claimed he was doing for Trump. Second, Cohen was never tried nor convicted of lying to investigators. He did plead guilty to actions surrounding the Trump campaign, but there was no crime involved. The prosecutors took his guilty plea and the judge accepted it. But when these actions were described in the SDNY sentencing memo the word "crime" or some such was never mentioned. His sentence did not distinguish among his three crimes and his one non-crime

 

I don't know what that means, but a number of people have raised the charge/assertion of unconstitutionality. IIRC Manafort's attorneys raised the issue (and there might have been others), but most do not have standing to file suit.

 

Nice thought, but Adam Schiff and Eric Swalwell cannot be impeached and cannot be indicted for statements made as members of the House.

 

No one concerned, regardless of their personal opinion, partisanship, biases, and/or prejudices, has actually tried to invalidate the appointment of the Trump Justice Department Special Counsel "to oversee the previously-confirmed FBI investigation of Russian government efforts to influence the 2016 presidential election and related matters."

 

Whom do you know that might have standing to do such?