Handwriting Analysis Done On Obama Birth Certificate

Well, I dropped out of grad school and work as a fiction writer/9-5 office paper pusher.

Pwned.

 

don't use me as a character reference... which franklin quote ??

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me too..

 

says the actual people who issue such documents. and every court that has heard the case has said you lost. making you 0 for 157.

so, like I said, there is nothing in my statement that is incorrect.

 

i don't think most of those cases were heard, in fact dismissed by technicality. discovery only once right ! obama's lawyer was a no show and was on the elections advisory board ?

 

None were dismissed "on a technicality." Article III standing is the first merit of any civil case.

More than a dozen cases have been decided on the full merits, all have declared President Obama a natural born US citizen.

No cases have reached discovery because discovery does not include forcing the opposition to do your research for you.

In the case where the President's (actually, the DNC's) lawyer failed to show up, the three birther attorneys were offered the opportunity for a default judgment. They turned it down because they wanted to get their "evidence" in the record. Their "evidence" ended up accidentally proving that the President was a natural born US citizen, so the judge could no longer rule in the plaintiff's favor (as he would have in the default) and was forced by the evidence to rule against them instead.

What the hell is an "elections advisory board?"

 

council. mike jablonski, obama's lawyer, no show. if memory serves, i believe this is where doc conspiracy and foggy first met.
http://www.sos.ga.gov/GAEAC/
while it is true that ben's quote isn't written, i could find no proof that he never said it, therefore i will continue to use and enjoy it accordingly. thanks for the tip.

 

Of course you will. It is your habit to never settle for the truth when a useful lie is available.

Even Free Republic calls bull(*)(*)(*)(*) on the fake quote:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2181646/posts

 

Screw Vallely and the poxy horse he rode in on. The SOB is a Christo-Fascist warmongering thug and an unrepentent torture monkey who thinks it is totally cool the beat intel out of prisoners. His kind are a threat to our 1st Amendment rights. He's a Crusader and should not be given the time of day by decent folk.

I really have a problem with people who keep company with swine like him.

Yeah. There's lots of fascist scum in Russia and Germany these days who share his Dominionist asggenda.

Vallely aint a good American.

 

i don't think it's quite all that dramatic. ben was a bit whimsical and it sounds like something he might say. why, do you want the credit, it's a great quote, and ostensibly prophetic too. the notion seems petty, even for you. i'll try to track it down, for now , it' belongs to ben.

it's somewhere in the neighborhood of "now he belongs to the ages" upon lincoln's death. i don't think stanton ever wrote it out, but the quote is generally attributed that way. i'm sure there are other examples. i never meant to deceive anyone, and it's nowhere near the sacandalous magnitude of marco rubio sipping water.

free republic: While I agree wholeheartedly with the quote, I also hate making a fool of myself should Franklin not be the author of the quote or if this happens to be one of those "manufactured quotes" that happen from time to time.

this is your proof snopesey ??

 

Like I said, it is your standard procedure to never tell the truth when a useful lie is available. This is a touchstone for your integrity. And you failed.

As usual.

 

yet i know how and when to read and redact....stalker, sloppy work... wong

that's fine. sticks and stones. lol

also from the internet:

the word is spreading 2million 30 thousand hits on Google under Orly Taitz, I am sure massive scrubbing will start right about now

Posted on | February 15, 2013 | 11 Comments

 

as I said, "too professional"... anyone seen woodman ?, or should I say strawman ?? LOL lol lol

http://rcradioblog.wordpress.com/tag/wong-kim-ark/

[video=youtube;7s9StxsFllY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s9StxsFllY[/video]

see the pyramids along the nile....

 

Back in 2011, there was some brief speculation that OCR was used in the process of making the Obama long form PDF, but that was quickly found not to be the case. The artifacts in the PDF that birthers make such a big deal about are the normal results of MRC compression. One of the world's foremost experts on MRC compression and a holder of patents on the process Dr. de Queiroz has actually looked at Obama's form and said it looks like MRC.

It's important to understand that MRC compression is not one single algorithm, but a general concept. Each implementation works differently. MRC separates a document into a background layer, stored as a lossy compressed image, and one or more foreground layers that are bitmaps. While I cannot tell you exactly which MRC implementation was used to make Obama's PDF (probably a high-end multi-function copier scanner machine), I can point to a patent for MRC compression that describes the kinds of layers we see in the Obama form. Adobe Acrobat does MRC compression, and when I scanned my own birth certificate with it, layers were created and some of the same kinds of things broken into separate layers (like parts of a signature) were observed. It was not exactly the same as the Obama certificate because the Adobe Acrobat MRC is not what the White House used.

Birthers originally said with absolute certainty that PDF documents don't have layers. Then documents were found all over the Internet with layers. Then they said with absolute certainly that there should be no halos around the text, but academic papers were found saying that halos were a problem with MRC compression and the Adobe Acrobat MRC dialog has a "remove halo" option. They keep making claim after claim, and when they are shot down, they just find somethings else they demand an explanation for. Well I have news for the birthers: the State of Hawaii has independently verified everything on that form. There's nothing else to fake.

Basically birther image analysis consists of people who don't understand what they are doing, seeing things that they don't understand, and making the leap from "don't understand" to "fraud." And they believe this firmly and unshakably, and they do so because they had already decided "fraud" before they looked at anything.

 

is there a scientific consensus with this doc ?... you know... like global warming ??

 

I wouldn't declare a "scientific consensus" since only a very few scientists have commented on it. There is a consensus of those who have commented. I should note that since I wrote the original comment, the workflow that created the White House PDF has been figured out, and that should put the matter to rest (except for the birthers for which nothing puts things to rest).

 

is the whitehouse naming names ?? workflow ?? lol.. sounds like wong's "bad inking".. or those newspaper announcements being some sort of proof. the more we know the more, the more questions. I liked your article though. long live we birthers, proud and strong and growing.

it's so great to be a birther doc, what a great long lasting caper... fascinating. some day you'll come over and join us from the evil side, you'll see.

 

The White House isn't playing in this debate. But all the things that the Cold Case Posse has found as "anomalies" and proofs of forgery are explained very simply, even to the level of extreme detail:

The birth certificate was scanned upside down on a Xerox WorkCentre 7655 to PDF. The PDF file was opened on a Mac using the Preview program, rotated 180 degrees, and then saved. That's the whole story. And, by the way, the newspaper announcements ARE proof as well. The verifications of Hawaii to the Secretary of State of Arizona are proof.

I may come around to the birther point of view, but only after the onset of dementia.

 

HEY by the way...

welcome to political forum man !!

i'm glad you're here.

 

How about you stop using U-Tube as a viable source of information, it isn't. Birthers = Dead From the Neck Up

 

What are the professional credentials of the people who did this experiment? Also the newspaper announcements only say that a birth took place, not where.

 

youtube isn't a news agency, thinktank, proponent or opponent for any issue. it is merely a collection bank that anyone can contribute to or draw from. everyone uses it, not just we the birthers.

 

the obamas' provenance is weak. even his own autobiographies are sketchy as hell.

even the anti birthers are discovering and posting new concepts and theory, as evidenced by NBC's findings at dr. goldcoin's site (Obamaconspiracy.org)

 

And they can avoid facts, truth and can manipulate what you are seeing, meaning it is not trustworthy. Youtube is nothing more than a source of entertainment, using it as a source of news is nothing more than a gamble and the odds are not in your favor.

 

I suggest you go to Doc's website if you want details- obamaconspiracy.org.

The newspaper announcements just confirm everything else that the State of Hawaii has been saying.

Since 2008, both the Democratic and Republican governors of Hawaii have confirmed that Obama was born in Hawaii. Since 2008, the Directors of Health of Hawaii- who are in charge of birth certificates have confirmed that they have viewed the original on file and that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii.

The State of Hawaii has verified this to at least three states who asked Hawaii for verification.

So the question is:

Do you think that there is a conspiracy involving both the Democrats and Republicans, and Hawaiian civil servants to commit fraud on the American people?

Because that is the only way to still have any doubts as to the legitimacy of Barack Obama's BC and place of birth.

 

The guys who did this experiment have no professional credentials. They can't duplicate in exact detailed precision what Obama released to the public. You ask...

"Do you think that there is a conspiracy involving both the Democrats and Republicans, and Hawaiian civil servants to commit fraud on the American people?

Since the CCP of the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office under the Arizona constitutional authority of Sheriff Joe Arpaio has found the Hawaii state government birth document to be a confirmed forgery, then yes, a conspiracy to cover-up that fact by the Hawaii Dept. Of Health has been noted.