Healthcare--a right or not?

Wow you are truly ignorant. I'm sorry for you. Education is a good thing, sir.

 

They seem to think of themselves as the master when they agree with what the master does to them. They even seem to imagine they do something to their masters when they "vote the rascals out". I guess that's what Hoppe meant by "low class consciousness".

 

Anti-stealing does not equal anti-public-society.

Pro-stealing DOES EQUAL anti-society.

Violence is a bad way to do things. It should only be used if absolutely necessary. You are not the enlightened one here, you are the barbarian.

 

You should live in that enlightened country.....which one is it again? LOL

 

[MENTION=50331]Ethereal[/MENTION] put it best when he pointed out that our believe system was derived from the Age of Enlightenment, where things such as the divine right of kings were discarded. Their belief system comes straight from a cave, when men used clubs and violence to settle disputes.

But he put it more eloquently.

 

Yes this wonderful belief system....that no country uses. LOL

 

Dude, I don't think you have a clue what you're saying.

WTF are you saying I don't agree with a non agression principle? Ludicrous.

I don't think any Jesus is coming down to do anything. Where do you get such asinine thoughts?

We humans haven't figured anything out to a consensus. Until that happens, we need laws. Until the vast vast majority adopt some pie in the sky rights, we'll have to deal with legal rights.

If you're so empathetic to others, and believe others will just lie down and let you have what you want, why are you against letting others have access to healthcare without going bankrupt, if the situation arises.
My guess is you aren't empathetic, but it's I got mine, if you can't get yours, F off.

How about addressing the land issue. Without the law, what gives you a right to any piece of property? If someone else wants it as bad as you, how does who gets to occupy it get resolved?

 

LOL it sounds about right just like that.

 

Why you always post lies, is beyond anyones comprehension. You should not lie so much.
If you can't be adult, you should just let adults do the posting. Do you ever post anything but attacks?
Or just post with Maximatic.

 

There was a time when people followed nothing but monarchies as well. The freedom movement is growing by leaps and bounds, and is still in its infancy. Knuckle dragging neanderthals are bound to resist, but your belief system is suffering an exodus. Like slavery and feudalism, it will be placed on the trash heap of history. Unfortunately you've neither foresight or intelligence enough to comprehend.

 

4 times, I asked you point blank this natural law. You have yet to say what it or they are.

So you don't use esoteric terms, you don't use any.

 

Yes its growing by leaps and bounds. Not one town, county, city, or state in this country has your philosophy and not one country on earth does. There are areas within some countries that are not subject to law. Somalia, sudan...etc have areas where people do not have any force from the government to tell them what to do. What do you think those places are like? LOL

 

So you want someone to lose their home before you're willing to help them with healthcare.
Why?

 

LOL. You haven't presented any good ideas. At least that deals with reality. Just pure philosophical ideas that only work in a text book or some forced religion.
I think its a religion of I got mine, F everyone else. Bad philosophy.

 

You know, logic never works on a far RWer? That would require thinking.

 

No you didn't. The way I see it, I've answered all your questions insofar as they make sense. I'm tired of it though, because you still seem to have a bunch of things wrong that have already been stated pretty clearly.

 

Go ahead and comment.
Start by giving this natural right.
Also, define a natural right.

 

Then point to the post where you answered the question. 5X now you haven't answered it.

Will it be 6, or will you link to the post you answered it.

What is this natural right or rights? State it, pretty clearly.


Let's see if you're really blind or not.

 

So, you assert something that I never said. It would help to follow the discussion -- we were discussing people having to spend their SAVINGS, not sell their homes. Here is what came before:
My first posting, in response to a poster talking about people having to spend all their savings on healthcare:
And? What are savings for? When you need to use them. I can't think of a better reason to spend savings than on one's own or family's health. If someone has assets, why should the government (i.e. taxpayers, i.e. OTHER PEOPLE), pay money towards that person's medical expenses? I mean, jeez. If you're going to ask me to chip in, exhaust your own resources first.
Then the op's response:
Savings help people retire, and buy a home.

 

It might help.
It would also help is you use words you actually mean. You said assets, savings is only 1 asset. A house in an asset. In many gov't programs, the value of a car can be an asset if over a certain value.

So where do you draw the line of how close to bankrupt one must be.

 

We do not ask even millionaires in this country to pay for their kids public education. The same should be true for healthcare

 

Last time, in your very last response to me, you asked me to define "natural law", but I've already posted definitions of "law", "right", and "natural". I don't really feel like putting it all together for you. You're a bad student.

 

Do you ever do anything other than demand that others subsidies your desires ?

 

show me I'm ignorant.
Who's gonna pay when we have single payer ?
Whos' gonna pay for that sick guy in the hospital for 5 years.
The questions deserve answers.

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so taxes are free ?

 

Yep, 6X, dodged. Must be a record.
You posted a definition of right, which included it a legal. Not 1 thing natural about it.

6X now, you have never posted 1 natural right. Not even a word to represent a natural right. I don't think you know what natural is.
Going for 7?