Here's how Elizabeth Warren would change Social Security

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  1. squidward

    squidward Well-Known Member

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    But but but billionaires!!!!

    Despite the fact that the tax will be inflicted disproportionately on those making more than $136k, and none of these leeches care
     
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    BS. Have you noticed that there is a quickly approaching retirement crises? Maybe you have not. I can provide a link if you need it.

    Her plan does in part address it, not fully but at least does not ignore the issue.
     
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    Your retirement crisis is not my problem
     
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    A solution that makes a problem worse is just..

    I am fully aware of the issues come 2035 thanks
     
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    It’s all our problem. A great nation will not let their elderly live in squalor, a great nation faces its problems and works to solve them.
     
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    Travel the world and then tell me what you think of "squalor".

    IF this was the only tax increase she was discussing it might be workable but its hardly only tax increase she discusses.
     
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    I have travelled the world and have seen squalor, India comes to mind. I also have seen very progressive countries that place a priority on retirement security like Belgium.

    I hate to say it but we need to raise taxes not only to address ss but the debt and other issues.
     
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    Failure to save and living off of credit is their problem. Listen to the banks, buy that big home, buy those SUVs and pickups, take those vacations, buy those electronic gadgets, ......pay for your own retirement
     
  9. Distraff

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    You in your own words say that people's tax money shouldn't go to other people. Otherwise you wouldn't have a problem with the wealthy giving a little to help salvage our social security program. In other words you want to dispand the government because that is what government is all about.
     
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    While I agree with you, insurance is not allowed to spend all of their money on boats, guns, charity, and more charity. The SS program has plenty of money, it's just all tied up in IOUs from spending for normal government operations. That's not how insurance works either.
     
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    Then you should know better to use the term squalor.
     
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    Squalor is a relative term.
     
  13. Professor Peabody

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    Vote Democrat and you won't have a choice.
     
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    I've been forced to pay into the system since 1974. If not then pay me all I put into the system plus compounded interest and I'll be on my way.
     
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    I think Warren is starting to ride a wave. Poll after poll shows Americans are tired of the status quo and ready to support progressive alternatives. The truth is America is a pretty progressive place but the conservatives in both parties have spent so much money on think tanks and lobbying that the progressive voice gets drown out and we are left with what we have now.

    Warren may be the best hope for getting rid of Trump if she sticks to her platform and gets out of the way of Donald being Donald.
     
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    Who are these leeches? Those like me who would like to get fair compensation for the money they have forced to me invest for 50 years? What I was forced to pay into this system should net me a hell of a lot more than $3000 a month until I croak champ. If Warren can get me another couple or three grand, it’s about time that one of these people do something good.
     
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    Our democracy isn't ending because of the next election. The next election won't be epic for our entire history. They say that about every election but its just more of the same.
     
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    Somewhere there's a group of Russians cheering for you
     
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    I wish we could have applied that "not my problem" logic to South Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Israel, NATO, and all of the other foreign sinkholes that have sucked up our taxpayer money. That includes the Ukraine, a country that apparently got 1 Billion dollars of US taxpayer money for hiring Hunter Biden.

    I have a good retirement so I could say [expletive] a bunch of old people who are not my problem, but since I am IMHO a patriotic American it is my problem.
     
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    That’s a pretty stupid response.
     
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    Very true. Freedoms are given up a little at a time till one day you ask yourself how did it get this far, of course by then it's way too late. Myself, I'm in my 60's, in poor health and never had any kids. In some ways I really don't care what happens to the country when I'm gone, ya'all made your bed now ya can sleep in it. Then again, I want folks to grow up with the freedoms I did back in the 1960's.
     
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    Stupid posts don't deserve intelligent responses. You deserve what you earn. You alt left radicals don't "deserve" money that you didn't earn.
     
  23. Pollycy

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    Well said, and even though I'm a Right-wing Conservative, I also feel that we who paid and paid and PAID all our lives into SS and Medicare deserve every damned dime that's coming to us -- and that includes the automatic cost-of-living increases that were supposed to have always been a part of Social Security since 1975. Funny though -- in the past ten years there have been three years when there were NO increases at all, and the rest were microscopic, and nowhere near the kind of increases people have seen in things they actually have to BUY or PAY FOR!

    Hint: Have rents and leases on apartments gone up in the past ten years? How about the prices of houses themselves? Do cars cost more? How about getting appliances in a house worked on? How about getting a car worked on? How about medical care, and medicine? How about many different kinds of food? How about nearly everything in a hardware store? On and on....

    Dizzy Lizzy Warren may have actually found the very thing that will catapult her right into the White House, simply by promising to provide meaningful increases to SS payouts -- and do it right away!

    Trump, meanwhile, will take no notice. He's too busy waging war on interest rates, so that savers (many of whom are retired now) will get screwed even worse than they have been for years, and, he's doing everything he can to promote everybody stuffing more investment in the already laughably overvalued stock market casinos! Remember -- I AM a Conservative, and I did vote for Trump in 2016. But I can see what's coming, and President Trump had better start seeing it, too.... Baby Boomers VOTE, and there's 70,000,000 of them!

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    can you name the republican politicians that support social security and Medicare
     
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    I will just be happy if the rich pay as much per dollar they earn as I do..... sadly that is not the case today, why should we pay more tax per dollar then the rich?
     
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