HHS estimates coronavirus mortality rate at 0.1%-1%

Well, a vaccine has been developed under his admin and it’s being shared with Africa

 

Suck to be you...

 

Quote the lies

 

The state of emergency is not a panic response. Since the National Emergencies Act of 1976, we've had presidents declare 59 of them, more than half of which are still in effect.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Emergencies_Act

Where is this "... power to do anything i[t] wants to do to you ..."? Maybe you're paranoid. In this case, the declaration frees up resources. It could be used as a means of control, but I'm not seeing that and none of the previous emergency declarations have used to oppress the populace as far as I can tell.

What do you think they plan to do in this case? What freedoms do you fear to lose? Im genuinely curious.

 

Trump reflects himself in the worst ways possible every time he speaks or tweets. It certainly takes no effort on my part. I see what he does, I hear what he says, and my opinion of him is based on that.

As for using up a test kit: FFS, he's the president, we need to know that he of all people doesn't have this virus. Thankfully (because believe it or not, I don't wish him to sicken and die) his test was negative.

 

So why has Trump postponed all his rallies and fundraisers?

It's only been a week and your whole thread really hasn't aged well

 

No, actually, it definitely doesn't suck to be me. I'm not an a..hole who freely expresses the fact that he doesn't care about anyone but himself.

 

I don't know if it will happen because coronavirus is mild, but if corona had a 30% kill rate in the USA you would be prohibited from leaving your state, and probably your county, with Soviet style checkpoints boxing you in. You might also be under 24 hour curfew until further notice and subject to arrest if you left your domicile. Presently in Italy they have to file paperwork with the government for permission to go to the grocery store and only a limited number of people can enter a store at one time with long lines outside of stores, six feet apart. The worse it is the more the government is going to lock it down -- and those measures are altruistic.

 

I don't think that any of the RW "It's No Big Deal" threads have aged well.

Then again, it must be disheartening when one realizes that...

1) The Virus in "No Big Deal"

and

2) Joe's "Latest Gaffe" threads

...Are falling upon dead ears and nobody cares.

Anyone (who supports Trump) MUST realize that the Virus is a serious (and ongoing) threat to public health.

And, 99.9% of these "It's No Big Deal" posts are easily written off as Partisan "defend Trump at all costs" Hyperbole.

 

I've seen some really stupid stuff from that crowd, but this month I feel like their stupidity has hit an all time high. It's definitely not a new trend for them to go against a scientific consensus, but the way things have unfolded this month with this virus in particular, it is truly astounding to see them play their game of rational gymnastics.

 

....yea....

13x survivabillity is horrifying.

 

At the present moment science has very little to offer. It's the small, simple things that the people by and large are going to do that is going to flatten the curve -- until the breakthrough on the immunization and science triumphs.

 

It's not that it is no "big deal", it is that it is not nearly as big as deal as some people and the media are making it. The panic and reaction are well out of proportion to the actual risk. The damage from that will far outweigh the damage from the virus.

Joe's numerous gaffes are fair game, don't try to hide them under what Trump says. Your in effect doing exactly what your accusing the right of doing in that regard.

 

Gulp

 

Tell that to Disney, MLB, NBA, Live Nation, I'm sure their shareholders would love to know that they are only over-reacting.

 

They are. They are all now victims of having to over react or face a PR nightmare. Nobody with a bit of business sense is going to stay open now, they would be crucified on social media for doing so by the social justice crowd fools.

The "sky is falling" left at work again. The left is a movement based on "feel good" actions, rather they work or not make little difference as long as they feel good.

 

with this rate of growth, flattening the curve probably makes a few days difference, if that.
The graph that is circulating is based on imaginary numbers
Look at the graph of 4^x v 3^x.
Likely millions are already infected
The flattening will make little practicle difference.

If every person can infect 4 people,
It only takes 20 cycles to infect 1.099 trillion people.
The cat is way out of the bag.

 

Ugh.

These businesses are not sacrificing millions in revenue because of potential social media backlash. They are following recommendations from private and governmental health experts who have seen the benefits of shutting down large public gatherings in order to help flatten the curve.

Roughly the same number of individuals are going to be infected, but if we can flatten the curve then the medical infrastructure stands a much better chance of handling and saving the critically ill.

 

This flattening the curve business is laughable.
Exponential growth outpaces anything we can comprehend in terms of resource allocation.

The government measures will result in massive slow downs in resource delivery.
They are greatly exacerbating any resource issues and the curve flattening is negligible by comparison

 

What curve flattening do you expect?
Mathematical functions and raw numbers please.

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle...ch-and-take-coronavirus-seriously/ar-BB11bw3m

Love this story.

Guess the older generation have seen enough "sky is falling" crap over the years to put it in the proper place mentality and emotionally.

Meanwhile the millennials are freaking out

Extra little fun bit from the story..

"A recent Quinnipiac University poll asked 1,261 voters whether they were concerned that they or someone they knew could be infected by the coronavirus. Seven in 10 Democrats said they were concerned, compared to 35% of Republicans. "

 

Laughable? And you base that on what level of epidemological expertise? Seriously?

https://www.history.com/news/spanish-flu-pandemic-response-cities

The Spanish Flu was an incredibly dangerous epidemic. Philadelphia did not flatten the curve. St. Louis did.

Learn from history. We want to be more like St. Louis than Philadelphia.

 

We are likely going to see around 100 million infected in total. We need to see that total get infected across the span of twelve to fifteen months instead of two-five months if we want to give our medical infrastructure a better chance of saving the most affected.

You mentioned the idea that each person is infecting 4, on average. That is on the higher end of the R0 estimates that I have seen. If we can use social distancing to reduce the R0 to 1-2, then we stand a much greater chance of flattening the curve.

 

...Why do you love this story?

 

Curve flattening of exponential growth.
So funny.

RO reported to be 4
Growt curve = 4^x
Assume it takes 5 days to spread to 4 people.
First documented cas in the US was jan 19.
Minimum 4 people infected prior to his diagnosis.
That is 46 days ago, 9 new cycles of spread.
That's 1,048,576 people infected.

Now slow the rate from 4^x to 3^x.
How many days until the entire population is exposed?
764,411,904 people total within next 30 days

Slow it to 2^x
536,870,912 people total within next 45 days.

Piss in a fan anyone?